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re: Trump says he won't give aid to California for the fires unless they pass Voter ID law
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:31 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:31 pm to wackatimesthree
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Where is the rule book that you're appealing to that makes it against the rules to use political leverage for two otherwise unrelated issues?
Indefatigable is an absolute slave to 100% conventional wisdom on all things politically. This used to be the republican party norm. Thankfully, he and people like him are now the oddballs of the party.
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:33 pm to jizzle6609
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Whats with the downvotes?
From the same Independent source- "The president has run for election three times and has never won a majority of votes in California. Each time, he has made false allegations about his losses having been tainted by fraud and by non-citizens voting for his Democratic opponents."
The Independent had to put in their little leftist dig against Trump, they can't help themselves!!
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:34 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What's the hardship of imposing voter ID requirements?
No problem with Voter ID laws. I don't see how you connect that to relief funds though in order for it to be a permissible condition of federal funds.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:35 pm to Indefatigable
Here are the results from my 5 second Google search in which I searched, "Can the federal government withhold federal funds to states for civil rights violations:"
We'd have to look into it further, but it's unclear whether the funds have to be related to the violation. If so, Trump could simply withhold other federal funds that were related.
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Yes, the federal government can withhold federal funds from programs or organizations that violate civil rights laws.
Explanation
Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
This law prohibits discrimination in programs that receive federal funding based on race, color, or national origin.
Withholding federal funds
The Office for Civil Rights (OCR) can withhold federal funds from colleges and universities that violate Title VI. This includes financial aid for students.
Lawsuits
The federal government can also file lawsuits against state and local officials who discriminate.
Consent decrees
The Justice Department can place troubled law enforcement organizations under consent decrees, which are court-ordered plans for reform.
Examples of civil rights violations
A school that doesn't provide adequate educational benefits to students of a certain race or ethnicity
A law enforcement organization that engages in discrimination...
We'd have to look into it further, but it's unclear whether the funds have to be related to the violation. If so, Trump could simply withhold other federal funds that were related.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:35 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Indefatigable is an absolute slave to 100% conventional wisdom on all things politically.
And by that you mean simply knowing the legal parameters for this sort of thing.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:36 pm to wackatimesthree
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If so, Trump could simply withhold other federal funds that were related.
If fedgov is giving CA money to support their elections, I would absolutely agree.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:37 pm to Indefatigable
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If fedgov is giving CA money to support their elections, I would absolutely agree.
You realize that the alternative to with holding funds is to send the military in, right?
Just like they did in the south when segregation was resisted.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:38 pm to Eurocat
So much for state’s rights
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:38 pm to Tandemjay
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The dems made the rules, they have blackmailing states for decades with money.
The drinking age thing, that was a Reagn initiative - 1984,
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:39 pm to wackatimesthree
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You realize that the alternative to with holding funds is to send the military in, right?
Just like they did in the south when segregation was resisted.
This is premised on the notion that lack of Voter ID laws is a civil rights violation? Not even saying I disagree, just that its quite a jump and certainly not something that is judicially accepted as true.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:39 pm to wackatimesthree
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If it were unconstitutional to do that, it seems that one of those states would have done so then.
Didn't Louisiana try and fail?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:41 pm to LSUGrrrl
hell - go all the way and demand in-person, election day only, ID required, US citizenship demanded, and paper ballots to participate in an election for any federal position = Representative, Senator, POTUS/VP.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:42 pm to Eurocat
At least George Bush played dumb when aid from fema didn't make NO on time. He's didn't tell new Orleans to build above sea level and change your voting laws to provide the funding..... That would have been appalling like this is from trump
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:43 pm to Eurocat
what conditions did trump ask of north carolina?
do they have to agree to install better flood prevention measures before receiving federal disaster relief funds? or do they just get the $ because their votes went for trump?
do they have to agree to install better flood prevention measures before receiving federal disaster relief funds? or do they just get the $ because their votes went for trump?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:44 pm to Eurocat
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Yes, I disagree.
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Yes, I disagree
Shocking. And you wonder why ever thinks you are a scumbag
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:47 pm to Eurocat
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The drinking age thing, that was a Reagn initiative - 1984,
FTR, I didn't throw that out to imply it was a partisan deal either way - I recognize it wasn't. It was the MADD lobby mostly getting ahold of a lot of people on all sides. Just as an example of federal strongarming.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:47 pm to beaux duke
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what conditions did trump ask of north carolina?
do they have to agree to install better flood prevention measures before receiving federal disaster relief funds? or do they just get the $ because their votes went for trump?
Dumbass. You can't prevent flashfloods in the mountains.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:48 pm to Eurocat
As much as I think this is wrong, isn’t this what the federal government did with drinking age? They said they wouldn’t give states money for roads if their drinking age wasn’t 21. The federal government has done this for many issues.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:49 pm to Indefatigable
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Disaster funding for citizens and federal highway dollars paid to the State itself are not the same thing.
I guess those citizens need to get busy and get on the phone and demand their legislators pass Voter ID legislation, then.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:50 pm to SixthAndBarone
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isn’t this what the federal government did with drinking age?
Not exactly, no.
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They said they wouldn’t give states money for roads if their drinking age wasn’t 21
Feds threatened to withhold 5% of highway funding. I posted the SCOTUS case on it and the factors involved earlier in the thread.
The feds can condition funding, but there are limits to that, one of which is the condition has to be at some level related to the funding being withheld. The drinking age was found related enough to the highway money and road safety legislation. Likewise, 5% of federal highway dollars wasn't considered overly coercive the way that a total withholding of disaster funds may be.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 3:51 pm
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