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re: Trump says Chip Roy is getting in the way

Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:46 pm to
Lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299101 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:47 pm to
Yep, the cognitive dissonance is incredible.

This is why Elon will not be around long. He will have enough of this foolishness with the quickness.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:50 pm to
I stand corrected. Still think he is full of shite. But at least he got that one right.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:50 pm to
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Trump begged the debt ceiling to be raised now she he didn't have to govern and deal with it while in office.
Why would he have to deal with it during his term?

Is it too low to cover the already approved spending?

Does he want it raised so he can pay for some shite he wants to do?

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You got a deal reached today on another shite pile with a debt ceiling jacked up to permit more insane spending until 2027.
The frick. What’s this thing called? I’ve got to start being more aware of this stuff.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 3:53 pm
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:51 pm to
I may be confused, but isn't the deal here: a continuing resolution and an increase in the debt ceiling exactly what initiated the motion to vacate McCarthy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:52 pm to
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Why would he have to deal with it during his term?


IF they didn't raise it now, it would have to be dealt with in a few months (when he was in office).

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Does he want it raised so he can pay for some shite he wants to do?

Apparently, since he supports the CR that is now agreed upon.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476597 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:52 pm to
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I may be confused, but isn't the deal here: a continuing resolution and an increase in the debt ceiling exactly what initiated the motion to vacate McCarthy?


I can tell you this: it ain't 12 appropriations bills.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:54 pm to
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the desantis gang is all here


They think they are fooling people. It's obvious to everyone. Chip Roy, Mike Pence, Joni Ernst. Ron DeSantis, Adam Kinzinger, The Bushes are all on the same team
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:56 pm to
They already agreed on the new CR that we talked about yesterday? Do we get to see what was cut?

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IF they didn't raise it now, it would have to be dealt with in a few months (when he was in office).
What does “dealing with it in a few months” mean?

Is it not high enough to pay for already promised projects? At what point in a new presidency do the old regime’s projects fall off the books and you can start doing new things with borrowed money while staying within the current debt ceiling?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:57 pm to
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They think they are fooling people. It's obvious to everyone. Chip Roy, Mike Pence, Joni Ernst. Ron DeSantis, Adam Kinzinger, The Bushes are all on the same team



WEFGLOBALISTRINOCUCKS!
Posted by oldskule
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:58 pm to
Trump is back, baby........FIFY
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:59 pm to
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WEFGLOBALISTRINOCUCKS



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This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 4:21 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 4:00 pm to
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They already agreed on the new CR that we talked about yesterday? Do we get to see what was cut?


The pdf is posted in another thread.

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What does “dealing with it in a few months” mean?

He'll have to explain why he's for raising the debt ceiling (destroying this facade of fiscal restraint/conservatism) and look like a Leftist...


....like he just did the past day.


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Is it not high enough to pay for already promised projects?

Apparently not.

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At what point in a new presidency do the old regime’s projects fall off the books and you can start doing new things with borrowed money while staying within the current debt ceiling?

The next CR would be that point, and Trump specifically did not want to have to take a stance on the debt ceiling while President.

Trump took this stance yesterday and continued it today. I referenced it in the APL thread.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 4:02 pm to
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Trying to primary Chip Roy but not Dan Crenshaw is telling.


Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44412 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 4:03 pm to
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Trump wants to do the debt ceiling raise now to get the political hammer out of the the way to disarm.



Because this has worked so well in the past right? We will 100% be in the exact same place next time. Seems we just kicked the can a little further down the road.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2396 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 4:03 pm to
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He is grandstanding. Where are his tweets calling out all the BS in the 1500 page bill? Where is his statements calling out Johnson? But now he wants to dig his heels in?


Yeah, i think you are right.

I am not sure what the numbers are, but it seems likely that there are far fewer than 218 deficit hawks in the House right now. Refusing to go to battle over it even before Trump takes office doesn't strike me as conceding the spending issue as much as it is dealing with political reality.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 4:06 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 4:06 pm to
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You got a deal reached today on another shite pile
Can you expound on "shite pile." I'm not challenging the characterization. I've not read the bill. But from what I understand, this CR is one helluva lot better than the "bipartisan" pile Johnson was trying to pass this morning.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23997 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 4:07 pm to
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Nothing has changed. Trump will spend the next 4 years fighting Republicans instead of Democrats.


Trump needs to have a plan and organization in place to increase the number of republicans in the house. Primarying republicans may set him back in this quest. It may help him. In don't know. He has a unique opportunity in two years to pummel the democrats. That's what he should do. I doubt he will ever get 218 plus republicans who will think exactly as he does. It could make for a nauseating second term if this is his goal.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91452 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 4:07 pm to
So if I have it right, Trump wants the debt ceiling raised right now so when he gets in, he doesn’t have to be the one to say “hey let’s raise this thing.”

And he wants it raised because he wants to see his plans through, but won’t be able to borrow enough money to do them bc the borrowed money is already tied up in projects from insane bills from the recent(ish) past.

So he’s like, “the previous folks got their way and they’re taking up all the funding and I can’t get my shite done so let’s raise the debt ceiling now so I don’t look like the problem when we’re adding more and more debt?”
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299101 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 4:09 pm to
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What about your views that Trump had no shot of winning the Presidency?

I predicted he would the day Kamala was announced.

I also predict you bitches will be voting Democrat in 4 years.
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