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re: Trump Plan to Ship Natural Gas by Rail Stokes Fear of ‘Bomb Trains’

Posted on 4/12/19 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 6:46 pm to
People not in the industry just don’t know how dangerous half the stuff is. My plant site keeps 50-60 NH3 and Cl2 railcars on-site st all times. If just one of those has a catastrophic failure, 30000 people east of Houston are dead at a minimum.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49182 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:09 pm to
We called propane, butane, all kinds of "ane" loads bombs.

LINK


The REALLY bad ones are not the bombs though. Think 100 tons of anhydrous ammonia released in a city.

100 tons is just one carload.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:15 pm to
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Think 100 tons of anhydrous ammonia released in a city.

100 tons is just one carload.


And to think I use to work a local that switched the chemical plant in Sterlington back in the day. We'd get about 12 cars of ammonium out of there five days a week and bring back to Monroe on a ten mph track because of poor track conditions and I might add right thru the middle of town.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26635 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:32 pm to
fricking idiots. They don't want natural gas on a train, but don't say shite about millions of gallons of propane, chlorine and acids being shipped daily along the rails.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:43 pm to

There is a lot of cyanide rolling around on rail every day.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 7:46 pm
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22273 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:53 pm to
We all joke about 4-d chess but the God Emperor has just maneuvered the Demonrats into supporting more pipeline construction.


That's nine inches of zugzwang, baby.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 8:06 pm
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:56 pm to
Any mention yet of barge traffic?

LNG barge or freighter is a tactical nuke.

Hell - the sensors on top of LSU vet school spike from voc’s If a large tow goes by just from the normal exhaust vents.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57208 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:28 pm to
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Fear of ‘Bomb Trains’
Extreme ignorance. Far more dangerous cargo travels the rails and roads every day.



OMG A BOMB TRUCK!!!!
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:25 am to
Ship natural gas by rail? I would strongly recommend we not do that.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13536 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:32 am to
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Put the gas on a train from Texas, put the illegals on it and ship it to the sanctuary cities in NY. They need gas and those illegals love riding on the top of trains...its a win win.




That would be so awesome. And they could paint the train to look like this...

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39424 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:36 am to
The libs don't want pipeline, they don't want trucks, they don't want rail. They think we can "science" our way into moving tons of fuels across the country while we simulatneously readjust the earth's temperature......but we can't figure out a way to get voter id's for black people or stop millions of migrants from invading the border.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:38 am to
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I would strongly recommend we not do that.




We're listening.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:40 am to
So libs love pipelines now?
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14143 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:43 am to
Bingo, I’m in industry As well and I know there has been a push to no longer ship ethane by rail. Pipeline is the way better option.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 9:48 am to
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My plant site keeps 50-60 NH3 and Cl2 railcars on-site st all times.


Where do you suggest it be stored for the safety of those 30,000?
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 10:06 am to
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We're listening.


A few years ago back in a town not far from my own hometown a freight train carrying some really dangerous stuff derailed right in the middle of town. It was an absolute disaster. There was fatalities and a dangerous cloud of lethal gas spread across neighborhoods. Actually it was (I believe) a valid miracle the death toll was not way higher.

Let me say without hesitation, I am opposed to the shipping of any LPG product by railroad. Given that your pal Barack Hussein Obama was successful in allowing Islamic terrorist to migrate to this country I believe shipping dangerous LPG gases (or lethal chemicals) by train presents an easy and inviting target to radical Islamic terrorist. Shipping LPG in small trucks to fill propane tanks in a backyard is quite different than shipping lethal gases by rail. Care to guess which one would make the bigger boom?

I'm listening?




This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 10:13 am
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49182 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 10:17 am to
Care to guess which mode of transport is safer and has few releases dumb frick?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35012 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 10:20 am to
quote:

A drunk moron stuck his dick in an electrical socket and electrocuted himself in 1979.


To be fair, if your dick is small enough that you can shove it into an electrical socket, suicide seems like a pretty viable option.

I don’t think I’d off myself via electrocution, but I can’t blame the dude for wanting to go out.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 10:23 am to
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Given that your pal Barack Hussein




You really should visit this site more often before throwing shite against the wall.

If you're going to use the "half the town blew up and killed people" argument than I suppose you're an advocate of doing away with air travel also? Not only do people die in the plane but in some cases so do people on the ground.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5872 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 10:29 am to
LNG, methane is not much different than ethane, propane, butane which are already shipped by rail. Difference is it must be kept at a subzero temperature to keep the pressure low enough for the tank. If left on a siding too long, safety valves will release the pressure causing a vapor release of climate change gas
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