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re: Trump on FOX - we're doing away with federal air traffic control
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:14 pm to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:14 pm to Homesick Tiger
I have worked ATC for the federal contract tower program which are air traffic services managed by private companies. Been having conversations with friends and former co workers both in FAA and FCT facilities. There will be advantages and disadvantages like everything else. There will likely be a phasing out for controllers who are closer to retirement. This has been in the works for a while and it was only a matter of time until privatization happened.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 12:17 pm
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:17 pm to wickowick
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Does the Government take care of plane maintenance?
What does that have to do with control of the air? If you've ever paid attention to the air traffic over the major airports in this country, you would know that having competent ATC's is very important. Plus the airport itself is a publicly held operation (for good reason) I'm thinking a guy who does not favor one airline over the other is a GOOD thing
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:17 pm to IceTiger
I'm all for this.
I don't fly, but this puts this expense on people flying instead of taxpayers.
I don't fly, but this puts this expense on people flying instead of taxpayers.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:17 pm to jlc05
That's it that's all you got ? Not going to elaborate? Just spewing nothing.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:20 pm to jimbeam
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You all know at the first incident they will be calling for Trumps head
Metaphorically calling for his head, but I'm not waiting. Now is fine.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:22 pm to MrLarson
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So people that use the service are going to be charged instead of all the tax payers?
Works for me.
All tax payers use the service either directly or indirectly.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:22 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:The current rate of commercial airline deaths is close to 0. Why mess with success?
Trump on FOX - we're doing away with federal air traffic control
Says he's turning it over to the airlines. Airlines have wanted this for about 2 decades. Reason, private control of the business will be better at advancing technology than the slow moving government does.
Winning, again.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:25 pm to Wtodd
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If you want to shut down the US just put the ATC on strike and ground all flights
A federal judge could make them fly and they would have to comply
You're assuming the judge wouldn't be a liberal appointee that would side with organized labor.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:25 pm to Big Scrub TX
This will improve efficiency of the system. Safety should stay about the same
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:25 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Why mess with success?
Something about the airlines claiming government not moving fast enough with the technology out there. Kinda like drugs that are accepted worldwide - except for here in the states.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:27 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You're assuming the judge wouldn't be a liberal appointee that would side with organized labor.
Part of the negotiations can easily include a provision that doesn't allow for these workers to strike. Then , if you don't the idea of taking a ob where you have given up your ability to strike if you are unhappy with said job at a later date, don't take that fricking job.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:36 pm to Homesick Tiger
I work for the FAA and have spent a large portion of my career implementing NexGen systems. It's a slow moving process because the National Airspace is complex. The funding was severely cut during the govt shutdown as well.
The model will be based on NavCanada, they've been private for a couple decades.
We will have most of our Airspace using NexGen by the time we fold over in 2021. So essentially we are all paying for upgrades that will then be handed over to airlines. Not to mention the NavAids, comm, and radar facilities.
The model will be based on NavCanada, they've been private for a couple decades.
We will have most of our Airspace using NexGen by the time we fold over in 2021. So essentially we are all paying for upgrades that will then be handed over to airlines. Not to mention the NavAids, comm, and radar facilities.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:37 pm to Remote Controlled
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The model will be based on NavCanada, they've been private for a couple decades.
This is great.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:39 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You're assuming the judge wouldn't be a liberal appointee that would side with organized labor.
I almost qualified my statement to include this and that the union would just buy off the judges
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:39 pm to jlc05
show me a single government program that is efficient in operation
Hopefully we close the postal service next
Hopefully we close the postal service next
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:40 pm to Big Scrub TX
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The current rate of commercial airline deaths is close to 0. Why mess with success?
To get reelected of course. "Who cares about lives when we can win."
Airlines will try to get as many planes in the sky as possible to make the most money. No different then cramming as many bodies in the plane as possible.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:43 pm to 90proofprofessional
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Thune comments
anyone tired of all this winning yet?
I'm guessing soon we'll see "began the process of privatizing ATC" added to Trump's list of accomplishments
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:45 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Airlines will try to get as many planes in the sky as possible to make the most money.
Are they going to force people to start flying to accomplish this?
What an ignorant view.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:46 pm to Iosh
Get rid of the TSA first
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:50 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Right now our focus is on the safety of the NAS, with delays part of that, but of a lesser focus.
I think it will shift towards efficiency and delays. I'm an Ops Manager and I'm the guy that makes decisions regarding wether equipment is operating at safe parameters for use. If it's not, I have no problem making that equipment "Out of Service" and issuing the proper NOTAM. I don't give it a second thought as to wether or not it will cause delays. It's more important to me that planes stay in the sky and arrive safely.
I can see a time when critical decisions will be based on how it will effect the airlines, not the passengers on the planes.
I think it will shift towards efficiency and delays. I'm an Ops Manager and I'm the guy that makes decisions regarding wether equipment is operating at safe parameters for use. If it's not, I have no problem making that equipment "Out of Service" and issuing the proper NOTAM. I don't give it a second thought as to wether or not it will cause delays. It's more important to me that planes stay in the sky and arrive safely.
I can see a time when critical decisions will be based on how it will effect the airlines, not the passengers on the planes.
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