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re: Trump on FOX - we're doing away with federal air traffic control
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:22 am to Iosh
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:22 am to Iosh
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Is this something he can do from the executive or is he just giving a speech to win points for something Congress will ignore?
Didn't Reagan fire them all once?
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:23 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:It's not the person - it's the implementation of new things. Messing with ATC scares me, but I admit I do not know much about it.
Explain to me how this increases the risk of "one frick up." What does being a government employee do to stop a traffic controller from fricking up versus that controller being a privately paid employee, in your estimation?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:23 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Didn't Reagan fire them all once?
Yep, they broke an oath not to strike.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:24 am to NYNolaguy1
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This is how the rest of the world does it, and they are way ahead of the US in this sector.
I know, right? It's like the rest of the world never just loses an airliner or gets them shot down flying over a war zone or anything.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 11:24 am
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:24 am to Homesick Tiger
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Trump on FOX - we're doing away with federal air traffic control by Homesick Tiger
Says he's turning it over to the airlines. Airlines have wanted this for about 2 decades. Reason, private control of the business will be better at advancing technology than the slow moving government does.
Winning, again.
I like this move!
Though it should be pointed out that airlines begged the government to take this over to begin with. Corporate welfare and all that.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:25 am to Homesick Tiger
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Winning, again.
Why?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:26 am to Yak
quote:Can't sue the federal government if an air traffic controller screws up. You can sue private industry, though.
Man, honestly this scares the shite out of me. One frick up means hundreds of deaths.
Personally for me if radar has worked this well for so long, why screw it up?
My wifi goes out when a cat farts in it's general direction...one glitch can be really bad.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:28 am to GetCocky11
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Air travelers could be on the hook
Coulda, woulda, shoulda!
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:30 am to Homesick Tiger
Not a huge fan of this on the surface - tons of risk to Trump if something goes wrong now.
But I need to see the details to form an opinion.
But I need to see the details to form an opinion.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:30 am to Superior Pariah
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Why?
You cool with affirmative action controllers?
I'm not, I'd like the best, thanks.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:30 am to DownSouthJukin
quote:We lose planes too.
I know, right? It's like the rest of the world never just loses an airliner or gets them shot down flying over a war zone or anything.
Do we have a considerably lower rate than other countries?
Also, the flying over war zones thing has no merit in this discussion.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:32 am to Homesick Tiger
He should make food stamps the responsibility of the grocery stores too
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:32 am to HubbaBubba
quote:It's not even about suing the private company. I read where the private company would be non-profit anyways.
Can't sue the federal government if an air traffic controller screws up. You can sue private industry, though.
I just worry about implementation frick ups and stuff. It could and should go off without a hitch, but ATC will always be one of my irrational fears
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:32 am to SirWinston
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Not a huge fan of this on the surface - tons of risk to Trump if something goes wrong now.
This mindset is why it's so hard to whittle down the reach of the federal government. It's good to see someone eschew it.
The notion that, well this is just "small potatoes" is sort of silly when you realize it's pretty much just a big bag of small potatoes.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:35 am to Superior Pariah
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Why?
Why not? I like businesses calling their own shots concerning their own business. I think of government controlled healthcare as a good example of why government shouldn't be dictating health care to me.
Airlines will still have to abide by government standards just like the railroads have to adhere to the FRA.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:35 am to Homesick Tiger
Is there any evidence that the Feds do a better job than Private does? Think VA; hell, they hire for reasons that have little to do with efficiency and more with social engineering and politics - because they are essentially UNACCOUNTABLE. Can't even fire the worst of criminals.
If Trump is successful into concurrently taking the Fed Regulatory bridle off the Companies and they are allowed to hire, fire and deliver only the best of service that their Consumers are willing to pay for...then it will be a great victory for all concerned.
The proof will be in the pudding. Shouldn't take long for the evidence to be manifest.
If Trump is successful into concurrently taking the Fed Regulatory bridle off the Companies and they are allowed to hire, fire and deliver only the best of service that their Consumers are willing to pay for...then it will be a great victory for all concerned.
The proof will be in the pudding. Shouldn't take long for the evidence to be manifest.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:36 am to DownSouthJukin
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know, right? It's like the rest of the world never just loses an airliner or gets them shot down flying over a war zone or anything.
I suppose its better than not being able to fire them after they go on strike and ground an entire nation's air fleet.
Besides that had very little to do with air traffic controller and much more to do with whoever at Malaysia Airlines decided that was a good route to take.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:37 am to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:37 am to 9th life
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that's a load off. I was worried he'd overlook this important issue dozens of people were calling for reform on.
^how to spot one who fails at multitasking
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:37 am to Iosh
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is he just giving a speech to win points for something Congress will ignore
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anyone tired of all this winning yet?
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