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re: Trump new tweet on Ukraine: thinks they can win back all land, maybe even gain land

Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5973 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:19 pm to
God damn that’s a lot of bait in one paragraph
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3998 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

Trump will most likely change his mind in 2-3 days


You think Trump is talking out of his arse.

Without a thought that he is putting pressure on Putin.

If he went full on out conventional warfare on Russia and ended up with
Putin being executed and the USA being engulfed in WW3 would
you be happy?

I don’t think you would

SO

What the frick do you want Trump to do?

Give me your thoughts
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:35 pm to
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What the frick do you want Trump to do?


Let Russian and Ukraine talk to each other.

Not send another cent in taxpayer dollars.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Ehh he’s been threatening this for months if Putin wouldn’t come to the table.


Putin already came to the table and offered to end the War if Ukraine gave up the last 20% of the Donbas. Zelensky refused. Now Ukraine will continue to lose more men and more territory
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3998 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:43 pm to
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Let Russian and Ukraine talk to each other. Not send another cent in taxpayer dollars.


I agree.

It appears we are past that point

Trump should wash his hands of it but he’s too far in now.

What should he do?

Rule from a bunker in the wastelands cause that’s where this
Boondoggle is eaded.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38341 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:01 pm to
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Putin already came to the table and offered to end the War if Ukraine gave up the last 20% of the Donbas. Zelensky refused.
That was just one of his terms. But you know that.

You left out Ukraine giving up Donetsk and Luhansk in full, recognizing Russian control over Crimea, renouncing NATO membership, granting Russia a role in Ukraine’s security guarantees, and limits on Ukraine's military size with no Western troops allowed, even for peacekeeping, refusing a ceasefire unless all that was locked in.
This post was edited on 9/23/25 at 9:09 pm
Posted by MajorityWhip
Member since Oct 2020
1167 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:22 pm to
So we are getting the money back, dumb arse.
Posted by LSUHeights
Member since Jan 2010
653 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:37 pm to
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He better. I didn't vote for him to continue funding Israel


Well, then you just better not vote for any US politician ever again.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6389 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Well.... say what u will, but I trust Trumps judgment on this more than anyone else's. Whatever Trump says, goes! He has more access to intelligence than we do. Anyone in public thinking they have the "big picture " on things is a fricking moron.


Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:56 pm to
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This is Trump working Art of the Deal. Just like the time before, and the time before that. We a decade on with Trump and folks still oblivious to his negotiating strategy and bite down hard every single time. Wild to see this play out.


Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:07 pm to
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You left out Ukraine giving up Donetsk and Luhansk in full, recognizing Russian control over Crimea, renouncing NATO membership, 


Russia already controls 99% of Luhansk and 75% of Donetsk. Russia has controlled Crimea since 2014 and the citizens voted by 95% to join Russia. NATO membership was one of the key reasons this War started and Trump has already acknowledged that. Ukraine has lost the War, by refusing to acknowledge that they will continue to lose more territory. I remember when the WEF Elites were promising everyone Ukraine was going to get everything back with the Summer offensive in 2023 and if they didn't, Ukraine would have to give up territory
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38341 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:21 pm to
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Russia already controls 99% of Luhansk and 75% of Donetsk. Russia has controlled Crimea since 2014 and the citizens voted by 95% to join Russia. NATO membership was one of the key reasons this War started and Trump has already acknowledged that. Ukraine has lost the War, by refusing to acknowledge that they will continue to lose more territory. I remember when the WEF Elites were promising everyone Ukraine was going to get everything back with the Summer offensive in 2023 and if they didn't, Ukraine would have to give up territory
Were you attempting to rebut my post or is this just your long-winded way of agreeing with me that you left a bunch of shite out?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:27 pm to
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to force Russia to sign off on a cease fire like Nixon did in Vietnam.
















Posted by Red_and_black
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2014
748 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:06 pm to
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Can’t wait to hear from Comrade Barron…


Careful the 80 zillion Russian bots and 5 idiots that buy what they are selling will down vote your post.

At this point only idiots back Russia in this. At the very least Putin is an idiot if he cant win this with all the advantages he has. Trump is spot on with this post.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2302 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:43 pm to
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the citizens voted by 95% to join Russia. NATO membership was one of the key reasons this War started and Trump has already acknowledged that. Ukraine has lost the War, by refusing to acknowledge that they will continue to lose more territory.


GODDAMNIT BARRON

I TOLD YOU ABOUT OVER SELLING

STOP BEING A DOUCHECANOE AND GET BACK ON TOPIC

1. Russia's economy is fine
2. Trump and Putin are in love and are going steady and this is just a temporary setback
3. Ukraine's government is about to collapse

Goddamn it's getting old having to do his job for him.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3384 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:38 am to
Trump is just trying to get Russia to the table.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45567 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:10 am to
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Trump new tweet on Ukraine: thinks they can win back all land, maybe even gain land


Trump has come around to my position. Took him ling enough.


Uh oh now you retards have to choose between Trump and Putin.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37580 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 5:53 am to
At least he knows that Putin was playing him all along. He should put HIMARs and ATACMs back on the board. They scared the shite out of Putin.

No issue with Trump's stance overall.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14814 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:02 am to
Just trying to shift the negotiations. You always ask for more then what you think you can get then settle somewhere in the middle near where you expect to end up.

Russia can’t keep up the war indefinitely as it would wreck the economy. And NATO is. It putting boots on the ground. Europe, if serous to wanting to pressure Russia, needs to step up and stop buying Russian energy. Otherwise Europe can deal with Russia without us.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13335 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:15 am to
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Trump is just trying to get Russia to the table.

Trump got him to the table in Anchorage. And Putin told him to get fricked. And that his war would continue.

This is Trump's response to the middle finger.

Putin was always counting on Trump bowing to the extreme isolationist fringe of MAGA that wants Putin to conquer Ukraine. But Trump has finally done the math on this one. The economies of the nations supporting Ukraine are 35x the size of Russia's economy. We can afford this war. Russia can't.

Yesterday was the perfect opportunity for Trump to say exactly what he said: Europe can afford to fund millions of migrants. Or it can afford to defend itself against Putin. But it can't afford to do both. It's really an easy choice.
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