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re: Trump new tweet on Ukraine: thinks they can win back all land, maybe even gain land

Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10347 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:18 pm to
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I'm just here for the gymnastics meet.


Posted by MajorityWhip
Member since Oct 2020
1167 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:19 pm to
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NATO is basically the US so by giving weapons to NATO we're still funding this bullshite.


You mean selling weapons to them? President Trump has only said this a million times.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:21 pm to
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He is putting pressure on European Nato countries,


John McCain (the neocon MAGA ruthlessly attacked) would be very proud of Donny today.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65862 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:21 pm to
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with the support of the European Union




I think this is a message to everyone that he's about to move the USA out of this completely and leave them all to handle it however they want.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65862 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:22 pm to
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He is putting pressure on European Nato countries, either you guys take some pain or we are out.


I don't think that's it at all. He's saying "we're out, good luck everyone."
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6414 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:23 pm to
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Some of us already knew that Donald didn’t fully understand.


Gonna be wild watching the PT Putin bros try to cram the toothpaste back into the tube
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21763 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:23 pm to
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Flavor of the day..


Roger, you don’t recognize his negotiating tactics yet? The effectiveness is yet to be determined, but this is so very much NOT “flavor of the day”.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:24 pm to
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Roger, you don’t recognize his negotiating tactics yet?


No one believes that.

He's being talked into supporting Ukraine. You and I both know that.

Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10809 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:25 pm to
Ukraine wants to cut a deal, Russia doesn’t. This is about making peace. Deal making is above your IQ.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:25 pm to
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Ukraine wants to cut a deal,


Why do they need us?

Hint: They dont.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10809 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:27 pm to
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Trump v2 has been mostly a clown show


This thread isn’t attracting the best and brightest. Yikes.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10347 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:28 pm to
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does anyone think he actually gives a shite about Ukraine?


He cares about the rare earth elements that are found in Ukraine. All of us should to be honest with you. If it wasn't for that and their agricultural production Ukraine would just be a place on a map with no significant value to the world.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10809 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:28 pm to
Because we have a security agreement with Ukraine and have been sending them military aid. You aren’t making much sense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Because we have a security agreement with Ukraine


This was the Democrats argument two years ago, I see now MAGA has picked up the argument.

Might be the biggest MAGA flop yet.
Posted by bamalee
Member since Jan 2009
1299 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:29 pm to
The truth Trump is playing game with the Globalist and Neocons in the D and R parties... In the senate you have people in that chamber that have so much tied up in Ukraine they cannot let it go.. Trump hammered Europe about buying Russian gas and then hammers Russia in a tweet.. He is playing both sides, I don't think Russia cares what Trump tweets or says, they no, remember what Putin said, sometimes the US president does not know what is going on or is told what to do and I firmly believe this, Trump was not going to be told by anybody what to do, that includes the MIC, CIA,DOD, and any other 3 letter agency. That is why they went after him so hard and strated the RUssia russia russia crap, Trump and Putin could not make deal...
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:30 pm to
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You mean selling weapons to them? President Trump has only said this a million times.





The US is the primary funder of NATO. So they're going to buy the weapons from US with the money that we've given them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:32 pm to
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The truth Trump is playing game with the Globalist and Neocons in the D and R parties.


He;s losing badly.

They got him to reverse his positions on Ukraine.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10809 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:32 pm to
It’s not an argument it’s a treaty we have. The issue with Biden was his fanning the flames of a war without any end goal in mind other than endless death.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13053 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 3:33 pm to
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we have really got to quit spending so much on this war
Respectfully, I don’t think you are up to date on the latest developments and current status vis-a-vis financial support…
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