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Trump looking 'very strongly' at Australia-style retirement system

Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:53 am
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:53 am
Makes sense, but the swamp won't like their SS Trust Fund blue light special borrowing scheme taken from them.

Trump looking 'very strongly' at Australia-style retirement system: 'Taking that, making it sharper'

Australia’s retirement system is built around "superannuation," a mandatory savings program that requires employers to contribute 12% of a worker’s ordinary earnings into tax-favored retirement accounts managed largely by private funds, according to the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College.

Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:00 am to
W Bush ran in the same retirement program and the Media and Democrats relentlessly framed it as trying to steal your SS.

That was in 2000. If you had been saving 12% for the past 26 years earning compounding interest, you’d be sitting on a small fortune for your retirement by now.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:02 am to
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Makes sense, but the swamp won't like their SS Trust Fund blue light special borrowing scheme taken from them.
Exactly!
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:05 am to
The return on SPY is on average double that of the SS Trust Fund over the last 40 years.

Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
580 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:23 am to
With a 30k/year job in 2000 and never getting a raise it would be worth 600k today. I bet lots of gen x would be ecstatic with that number.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
44682 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:28 am to
How about the gov’t get out of the retirement business altogether? People too stupid to plan for it? frick em.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4849 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:31 am to
Before anyone declares victory or disaster, Australia’s model isn’t just ‘private accounts.’ It’s mandatory employer contributions, professionally managed retirement funds, and a government pension. Whether it’s an improvement depends on the actual proposal not the label attached to it
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:32 am to
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That was in 2000. If you had been saving 12% for the past 26 years earning compounding interest, you’d be sitting on a small fortune for your retirement by now.


Sounds nice, but if everyone has a fortune, then no one has a fortune.

Im being slightly facetious, but it would be interesting if we could determine the inflationary impact of having a much larger number of retired millionaires.
Posted by RedSoloSpitCup
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:33 am to
quote:


W Bush ran in the same retirement program and the Media and Democrats relentlessly framed it as trying to steal your SS.

That was in 2000. If you had been saving 12% for the past 26 years earning compounding interest, you’d be sitting on a small fortune for your retirement by now.


1000% correct. W tried to save our country and they crucified him.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19647 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Makes sense, but the swamp won't like their SS Trust Fund blue light special borrowing scheme taken from them. Trump looking 'very strongly' at Australia-style retirement system: 'Taking that, making it sharper' Australia’s retirement system is built around "superannuation," a mandatory savings program that requires employers to contribute 12% of a worker’s ordinary earnings into tax-favored retirement accounts managed largely by private funds, according to the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College.


That would be nice. I’ve been capped at 6% for the last 12 years so I can’t take advantage of the $24,500 cap of 401k. 12% would be awesome but something would have to give. I’ve got a 4% raise every year for the last 12 years outside of the 1st year of covid when they froze salary’s. They also match me for the first 5 to 6 percent in my 401k depending on profits.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:41 am to
If you subscribe to the theory that eventually, whether it's a stock market crash or a ponzi scheme like SS, the entire system collapses into chaos, whether it's a government managed or private equity managed, it's all going to disappear rapidly sometime in the future.

btw....



In case you weren't aware: Rosland Capital goes Bye-Bye!
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65952 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:43 am to
Knowing our Government, they’d either steal it or devalue it, so…..
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:48 am to
quote:

That was in 2000. If you had been saving 12% for the past 26 years earning compounding interest, you’d be sitting on a small fortune for your retirement by now.
Correct.

For a current new 67y/o retiree who's been contributing to SS for 45yrs, every dollar he put in 45yrs ago is worth $3.40 today. Had the same $1 been put into an S&P account with reinvested dividends, it would be worth >$100.00 today. So yes, going to that type plan would be a boon compared with SS ROI.
Posted by bamatrader
Member since May 2026
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:55 am to
love this idea
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:56 am to
I like this idea a lot, but Congress won't give Trump a win. This would be a win, so we can forget it.

The Senate won't even take a formal recess, because it would allow Trump to fill his nominations from 18 months ago with recess appointments. I wouldn't expect them to actually accomplish something major.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22222 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:57 am to
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Sounds nice, but if everyone has a fortune, then no one has a fortune.


People dont like to talk about it but if everyone had money, inflation and basic necessities would be 1000x worse than our worst times of inflation.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4945 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:57 am to
Isn’t the SS payouts throttled in Australia too based on your retirement income and net worth? Meaning you’re not getting everything you put in if you have other personal wealth?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71723 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:58 am to
Would likely depress wages like payroll taxes do, but at least this would be deferred for the individual and not just a blackhole of theft.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140470 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:58 am to
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If you subscribe to the theory ... it's all going to disappear rapidly sometime in the future.
I don't.

I do subscribe to the theory that the very folks whom the system claims to be "saving" through redistributional economic policy will get absolutely decimated by inflation when fiscal dominance hits.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13528 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:58 am to
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tax-favored retirement accounts managed largely by private funds


Wall Street is about to get crunk!
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