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re: Trump kneecaps CIA

Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Tigertittie
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:37 am to
Do you have a link to that episode? I'd like to listen.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:38 am to
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Bruh


Why do you think Fauci is the most highly paid federal employee even over the President? Why did he receive a 68% in 2001 right around the Anthrax attacks?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:40 am to
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Color revolutions fukked
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:24 pm to
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Does everyone think that weakening the CIA benefits Donald Trump? How would degrading their ability to collect intelligence help decision makers make better decisions?


Why would Trump want to leave an agency in tact that was illegally attacking him and also operates unconstitutionally?
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:34 pm to
Dulles and Bush. Are you really going down the path saying this organization is responsible? has not caused significant harm to the world? look at South America in the 70s. Look at the Bay of Pigs. Look at so so many instances of CIA running guns, drugs, humans, starting wars, creating global conflict, thousands of lives were lost under their "guidance"

Why in the world would you prop up such a heinous global actor such as that?
Posted by Bayou Warrior 64
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:37 pm to
Love Love Love This!
Geaux Team Trump!
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:41 pm to
All removed were a bunch of Obama plants.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:47 pm to
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But how will i know what medication will hide my AIDS.


"Not safe for persons who identified as female at birth"
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:07 pm to
Because he's a (hopefully) paid shill whose only focus on this board is issues surrounding the intelligence apparatus. I hope he's being paid because God why do this for free...
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18919 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:18 pm to
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If anyone thinks that $50M was going to Gaza to buy condoms they’re deluding themselves. That’s See Aye A money and they’re laughing to themselves when they come up with these descriptions.


And I believe it was a dog whistle for some ignorant reporters to chase that lead.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:14 pm to
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Do you have a link to that episode? I'd like to listen.



Mike Benz
Marc Andreeson


Other than FedGov basically telling AI companies that they're in charge now, nothing to revealing, but still a good listen on the Andreeson one.

I feel like the Benz interview is WAAAAYY more interesting. When he goes through USAID, Atlanta Council, and the Council on Foreign Relations and how they get paid AND how they spend that money it gets interesting.


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Deep interplay between government, tech companies, universities, NGOs that dates back 80 years. You look at the evolution of NGOs like Freedom House or the Atlanta Council or Wilson center in promoting these free speech things. But what happened was, is in 20 2014, we had had about 25 years of successful free speech diplomacy. And then there was a. You know, we tried to overthrow the government of Ukraine. We successfully did. And I'm not even arguing whether that's a good or a bad thing. But the fact is, is the US did effectively January 6th, the Yanukovych government out of power in 2014. I mean, we literally had our Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasian Affairs, Victoria Nuland, handing out cookies and water bottles to violent street protesters as they surrounded the parliament building and ran the democratically elected government out of office.

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But then what happened is the eastern.

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Side of the state completely broke away. So we don't respect this new US installed government. Crimea voted in a referendum to join the Russian Federation and that kicked off. That sort of set in motion the events that would end the concept of free speech diplomacy is like a US government unfettered. Good. Because what they argued is we pumped $5 billion worth of US government money into media institutions in Ukraine. That's the figure that's cited by Victoria Nuland in December 2013, right before the coup. $5 billion. Setting up independent media companies, basically sponsoring Mockingbird style, our media assets in the region. And they still didn't penetrate Eastern Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine was primarily ethnic Russian. Didn't penetrate Crimea. So they said, we need something to stop them from being able to combat our media influence. And they initially called this the Gerasimov Doctrine, named after Valery Gerasimov, who is this Russian general. They took a quote from him saying, the new nature of war is no longer about military to military conflict.

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All we need to do is take.

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Over the media in these NATO countries, and that's primarily social media. Get one of our pawns elected as the president, and that president will control the military. So it's much cheaper and more efficient to win a military war by simply winning civilian elections. So that was called the Gerasimov Doctrine. That's what set up the early censorship infrastructure in 2014. Three years later, the guy who coined that, Mark Galeotti, would write a sort of mea culpa saying, oops, I'm sorry. Gerasimov was actually citing what the US Does. But by that point, they'd already renamed it hybrid warfare. NATO formally declared its tanks to tweets doctrine, saying that the new role of NATO is no longer just about tanks, it's about controlling tweets. And then Brexit happened in June 2016. In July 2016, the very next month in Warsaw, NATO added hybrid warfare to its formal charter, basically authorizing the military, the diplomatic sphere, and the intelligence world to take control over social media. And then five months later, Trump won the election, being called a Russian asset. So all that infrastructure was redirected home to the U.S. jesus.

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It was looking pretty bleak, I would say, in terms of the direction Internet censorship was headed. It seemed like the censorship machine was winning up until around the time that Elon purchased X. That seems to me to be our fork in the road. That's the alternative timeline. You know, Marc Andreessen talked about that yesterday, that we've had a couple of alternative timelines where things have shifted. I think that was one of the big ones.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 2:16 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:17 pm to
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When RFK outlaws pharmaceuticals advertising on television it will be a death knell to what's left of MSM.



There's going to be a lot of taints breathing a sigh of relief if this happens.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:18 pm to
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Does everyone think that weakening the CIA benefits Donald Trump? How would degrading their ability to collect intelligence help decision makers make better decisions?


Man, leftists pleading for the CIA to stay alive. My how they have fallen.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31834 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:19 pm to
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Other than FedGov basically telling AI companies that they're in charge now, nothing to revealing, but still a good listen on the Andreeson one.


Andreeson was full of shite on that point.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:24 pm to
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Decatur


10 years ago, did you ever think you'd be simping for the CIA?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31834 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:25 pm to
I’ve always supported the mission.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74563 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:27 pm to
100% full of themselves and the power they have amassed. They have become completely unaccountable to no one. Throw in billions of dollars at their fingertips off the books.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57051 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:28 pm to
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I’ve always supported the mission.


So Bush/Cheney/WMD's. You were all on board, right?
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31855 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:28 pm to
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Andreeson was full of shite on that point.






all these techbro (outside of Thiel) democrats supported Trump after 50 years of solid democrat donations, fundraisers, and voting turned on a dime in 2024 because they completely misunderstood or misrepresented the Biden/Harris plan for technology moving forward.


This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 2:30 pm
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