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Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:30 am to Eurocat
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it, plus no need to wait 5 days for all the mail in ballots
There is zero need to wait 5 days now. It could very easily be done before or on election days.
States choose to take days and weeks to count ballots. They do not have to.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 7:31 am
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:55 am to POTUS2024
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Congress ought to (of course they won't) mandate paper ballots, hand counted, no mail in etc for federal offices
add in photo-ID
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:42 am to Jjdoc
Republicans are still 6 years behind on all of this.
I'm all for expansion of voting, but this "absentee" and early voting shite should be outlawed because it is electioneering and corrupt especially the ballot harvesting and in particular California's way of doing it.
If you don't give enough of a shite to get up off your Netflix/Foxnews/Judge Mathis watching arse and get in line on a cool November day and execute your duties as a citizen, the you don't deserve to vote.
Only the military stationed overseas should be doing absentee....that's it.
I'm all for expansion of voting, but this "absentee" and early voting shite should be outlawed because it is electioneering and corrupt especially the ballot harvesting and in particular California's way of doing it.
If you don't give enough of a shite to get up off your Netflix/Foxnews/Judge Mathis watching arse and get in line on a cool November day and execute your duties as a citizen, the you don't deserve to vote.
Only the military stationed overseas should be doing absentee....that's it.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:37 am to Bard
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No. Some place with a small yet highly homogeneous population has that luxury (depending on shared personal ethics), a large diverse population does not. The further we move away from voting in person at a voting booth, the more access we allow for people to defraud the process.
I have no idea what you mean. If anything a less homogenous place woult benefit, no-one could bitch and moan about how their vote was unfairly not counted.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:39 am to Bass Tiger
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Hell yeah! Let’s vote from our IPhones….lol
Why not?
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:41 am to Colonel Flagg
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There is no reason to not lean on the side of more strict voting and counting rules other than corruption.
Except that the Executive branch may have a legal leg to stand on when it comes to corruption.
They can't dictate how elections are carried out by the states as it sits now.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:42 am to Eurocat
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Why not?
Same problem with the mail in method.
You don't know if the will of the voter was expressed, or if someone else used the app or the mail in ballot.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:44 am to Tiger985
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Critical component of that Estonian system is ID. You know that's a non starter in the USA. Any requirement for ID to vote is nothing more than a racist voter suppression scheme from white supremacists. The primary opponent to that system would be Democrats. At least until they figured out how to corrupt it.
Oh I agree, voter ID would need to be enhanced. But isn't that what all those who want "safer voting" and "less corrput ballots" want? How is my suggest e-voting less secure, it is MORE secure than paper ballots being brought in by Joe Schmoe = 100 votes he swears are from Nurshing Home "X" - all for the democrats.
E-Voting eliminates that.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:47 am to LSUCap
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Machines are easily compromised
No, theyb are more safe than paper ballots.
Watch this please, it is brief.
LINK
It’s another Monday morning in the office, except the 27th of February is not like any other – it’s the first day of the parliamentary elections in Estonia. I am hosting a delegation very soon at the e-Estonia Briefing Centre, wanting to hear about digital wonders taking place in Estonia.
But it’s the elections! I must vote. Before the guests arrive, I open the laptop and enter valimised.ee to download the voting application. I insert the ID card into the reader, verifying my voting and district eligibility. As I click next, the list of candidates becomes visible. I select my preferred candidate and proceed to confirm. For that, my selection is once more displayed. Upon clicking “vote, ” a window requiring my Pin-2 code pops up, meaning I will seal my vote with a digital signature, a process an average Estonian has performed thousands of times.
It took me around a minute to make my voice heard about whom I want to see govern Estonia for the next four years. It took less time than writing down this explanation.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:48 am to Bass Tiger
quote:A few folks think that the most advanced nation on Earth in the 21st century need not be constrained by the technology of bronze age Athens?
Imagine two retards down voting that goal…..they did!
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:51 am to AggieHank86
That's the thing AggieHank.
Some folks just don't want any kind of progress at all, any kind of improvement. I don't get it, they don't want to live better and easier? It is strange to witness.
Some folks just don't want any kind of progress at all, any kind of improvement. I don't get it, they don't want to live better and easier? It is strange to witness.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:57 am to KiwiHead
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Only the military stationed overseas should be doing absentee....that's it.
So people who are diplomats working in US Embassies abroad should not be eligible?
What about John Smith (made up name of course) who is running the Marketing of Coca-cola in Belgium. US Citizen, no vote? What about the million retired US people who have retired to places like Anigua but still are active in politics, donate, etc, no vote? Your suggestion is ridiculous.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:12 am to Eurocat
quote:Hell, what about Joe on your block who is working a Gulf oil rig on election day?
What about John Smith (made up name of course) who is running the Marketing of Coca-cola in Belgium. US Citizen, no vote? What about the million retired US people who have retired to places like Anigua but still are active in politics, donate, etc, no vote?
What about your other neighbor who has to take a business trip?
Should all commerce shut-down for every election?
Early voting and limited mail-in voting make sense.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 10:21 am
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:14 am to Jjdoc
All paper ballots?
How many weeks will it take to count all that?
How many weeks will it take to count all that?
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:16 am to Message Board User
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100%.
And even if it wasn't a stupid idea (which it is), it has about a 0.0% chance of happening.
Personally, I like being able to walk in & out of the voting booth in about 3 minutes rather than wait in line on election day. and most sane people agree with me.
Right. Early voting is a lot more convenient. We shouldn't have to shut the entire economy down for a day just so we can have an antiquated election process.
The only reason anyone would be for this would be to suppress voting. Period.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:19 am to doubleb
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How many weeks will it take to count all that?
France does it by the end of the day.
It's just a matter of having enough precincts.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:24 am to Indefatigable
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could very easily be done before or
mail isnt counted before so no one is influenced by (selective leaks) partial result. then you get clown-experts saying its "impossible" to catch up.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:30 am to Tarps99
Paper ballots should have a bar code that places an identifying number for that one ballot, the location it was printed, the date it was printed, and the location it was sent to before it was used by the voter. When the vote is scanned all that information is also pulled so that the ballot itself can be verified.
Then, if there is an area that has a unusual number of spoiled or fraudulent ballots, those ballots can be tracked back to the source of the ballots, the machine that counted it, and the people that were involved with that ballot from print to count to recording.
If Amazon, ups, and fed ex can track packages using barcodes then our election ballot process should at least have the same capabilities.
Then, if there is an area that has a unusual number of spoiled or fraudulent ballots, those ballots can be tracked back to the source of the ballots, the machine that counted it, and the people that were involved with that ballot from print to count to recording.
If Amazon, ups, and fed ex can track packages using barcodes then our election ballot process should at least have the same capabilities.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:34 am to Jjdoc
I have more than 14 family members who usually can’t vote in person on Election Day.
Military
US state dept
DEA
Hospital surgeon
International pilot
Domestic pilot
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