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re: Trump is risking making the same mistake Biden did

Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:40 am to
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
24240 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:40 am to
How long has Trump been in office???????????????????????

This is fukin’ stupid.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:40 am to
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You're a whiny little bitch.


Why is it that when people ask for complicated discussions and in no way just trashing Trump yall get offended like I called your mother a whore.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4015 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:41 am to
Oh my word. How dare you speak rationally and critically about dear leader like that.
::scoffs::
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10667 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:41 am to
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I understand the concepts of his tariffs to bring industries back to the U.S.


Do you? Then explain to me how we're going to not pay more for items manufactured by people who demand $30 an hour vs $20 a day.

Whether we suffer the tariffs or suffer the higher wages, "tariffs to bring industries back to the US" is going to cost the American consumer more.

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Not developing a plan to bring down prices


There's no such thing. Sure, he can not aggravate prices, like he's determined to do with the tariffs, but prices are not going to go down. It amazes me the number of people who think this is possible.

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Also ignoring the high interest rates


What is it you want him to do about interest rates? The interest rates are where they are because of inflation. The tariffs you like are only going to aggravate inflation.

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Touting investments that won’t be seen in 5 years


I don't know what this means.

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Too focused on foreign policy


Simply wrong. You're just wrong.

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Congress has also done nothing


The first point about which we agree. All of these EOs will eventually disappear like a poot in the wind if Congress doesn't make them law, and Congress may only have a short window to act.

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America first


"Muh 'Merca Fust" is an empty slogan that basically encourages people to think so simply that they lose the ability to see more than one move ahead.

It's what causes people to think, "Hey, we're bringing industry back to the US, that's good" while never thinking it through that bringing industry back to the US means a net negative for the entire economy b/c the higher prices for everyone will far outweigh the jobs benefits for a small handful of Americans.

It's what causes people to say things like, "We're too focused on foreign policy" while ignoring that we depend on international shipping lanes staying open and undisturbed throughout the world in order to maintain prices here, and international unrest disturbs those shipping lanes.

It's what causes people to cheer tariffs that have already been proven in 2017-2019 to cost American consumers and taxpayers billions more dollars than necessary b/c, "Hey, they have a 20% tariff on our goods but we only have a 2% tariff on theirs...that's not fair!" Totally ignoring that when we levy a tariff on imports it is our citizens who pay for it (just like when they put a tariff on our goods, it's their citizens who pay for it...let them raise the tariff as high as they want in that case...they are paying for it).

"Muh 'Merca Fust" might be the dumbest and most damaging fad ever to plague the US. Worse than Tik Tok.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:41 am to
Hi
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Look, focus on the 10 year note: LINK Trump’s Treasury is actively trying to raise bond prices since he took office and they are crushing it. People don’t see it now but lower interest rates will ensue. This is like pulling the string and arrow back on a bow. It takes a minute.


Thanks for actually giving a thought answer. This is something that needs to be talked about and touted more.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14076 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:42 am to
Stfu
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25778 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:43 am to
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-Also ignoring the high interest rates

POTUS doesn't set interest rates. And, interest rates aren't coming down unless the economy cools off and we enter a recession.

Honestly, most of your points seem ignorant.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26327 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:43 am to
Sad that someone this dumb is allowed to vote.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42289 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:45 am to
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I foresee midterms and 2028 a Dem victory in landslides.


Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
12786 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:45 am to
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A lot of damage in one month as if things couldn't get worse.


You are only seeing the real Economy now. We have been supporting this Country with Debt for the lat four years. It’s going to get worse before it gets better. Everything has been fake.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22748 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:46 am to
Yes, there is an article by Issues and Insights about this precisely. They say he better get a plan going on the economy fast or he may lose the narrative. I am not listening to the address tonight because I never listen to those, but I hope he lays out a plan for the economy. The woman in front of me in the grocery line laid out 250 bucks for her groceries. Not good.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
31517 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:46 am to
The economy is always real. There is no fake economy.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:48 am to
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Do you? Then explain to me how we're going to not pay more for items manufactured by people who demand $30 an hour vs $20 a day. Whether we suffer the tariffs or suffer the higher wages, "tariffs to bring industries back to the US" is going to cost the American consumer more.



That’s the trade off, up until the 2000s life was cheap but products were expensive. We weren’t drown in consumerism where we couldn’t buy worthless crap but could afford homes and cars. If we can return to that system I’m sure more people would support that over the current norm.


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There's no such thing. Sure, he can not aggravate prices, like he's determined to do with the tariffs, but prices are not going to go down. It amazes me the number of people who think this is possible.



Of course it’s not a magic wand but this was the same argument Dems made and look how that worked out. People want to at least see you trying instead of saying “we just can’t bring down prices”.


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What is it you want him to do about interest rates? The interest rates are where they are because of inflation. The tariffs you like are only going to aggravate inflation



In Trump first term he bullied the fed weekly about bringing down the rates it absent so far. He also campaigned on bring down credit card interest rates and that some congress should get on that would be a big win.


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It's what causes people to cheer tariffs that have already been proven in 2017-2019 to cost American consumers and taxpayers billions more dollars than necessary b/c, "Hey, they have a 20% tariff on our goods but we only have a 2% tariff on theirs...that's not fair!" Totally ignoring that when we levy a tariff on imports it is our citizens who pay for it (just like when they put a tariff on our goods, it's their citizens who pay for it...let them raise the tariff as high as they want in that case...they are paying for it).



I’m not a fan on 25% blanket tariffs I think the better move was reciprocated tariffs
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
4205 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:49 am to
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We need to crash the market, Wall Street, and lower prices will ensue.


This is one of the funniest posts I have ever seen anywhere on the internet, ever.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8473 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:49 am to
Time to valuable for a rebuttal.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23426 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:50 am to
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-Also ignoring the high interest rates


Interest rates are traditionally EXTREMELY average. We just had a period of very low interest rates.

ETA: Those interest rates were artificially kept low by government and directly caused high inflation.

What people don't understand is that interest rates are based on risk/ reward with lending money. The risk to lend money at sub 5% is extremely high and the reward is extremely low.

You can naturally sell bonds because the risk/reward is reasonable when interest rates are 6-7%. People will invest in things like bonds for a 4-6% ROI and then banks and lenders can make their cut on top of that.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 9:53 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24805 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:50 am to
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-Also ignoring the high interest rates


Uhh, the 10-year is cratering.
Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1132 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:51 am to
the only way anything he is doing is anywhere worth it is if my income tax is drastically lowered or eliminated so what's the time frame on that to happen???? because right now its going to kill my business.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:53 am to
Appreciate the concern.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62111 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:56 am to
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-Not developing a plan to bring down prices and completely ignoring the issues

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-Also ignoring the high interest rates

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-Not focusing enough on domestic issues

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