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re: Trump has to publicly announce this is over

Posted on 3/22/20 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 9:33 pm to
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Well we have to shelter in place now. No other option. But it is going to take much longer to calm down now. Then we can test aggressively and let “clean” people do some things. But there will still be lots of lingering infections floating around. So things can get out of control again.


Are you 65+, have lung disease, a compromised immune system, or live in a country with nationalized healthcare? No? Then you don’t need to quarantine.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 9:44 pm to
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You do realize that we are at 14.6k deaths now, and 1.6K were new today. If you're wanting 15K, check back tomorrow

I meant to say today at the end of that sentence. If it were 20k today I’d still be saying the same thing. The death toll on this will be less than 0.1%.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 9:45 pm to
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The death toll on this will be less than 0.1%.


That’s probably wishful thinking. It looks like around 0.6% will be the lower boundary.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3728 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:02 pm to
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A lot of you are missing the big picture here. It isn't just the Deaths from the virus (which keep increasing FYI) but also lives that can't be saved because of overrun hospitals.

people that go into serious conditions that aren't the virus won't have a chance to be saved if you can't get them in the hospital bed.

Tell the person's family that got bit by a rattlesnake, fell off his roof, hit by a car, etc. they could have been saved if we had more hospital beds but we were too worried about the economy and our paychecks to follow advice and stay home.

MONEY OVER EVERYTHING amirite.


I think people get that, but right now the government and the media have panicked people to the point that the healthcare system is already overrun with people who are convinced they are getting ready to die because they have a sore throat.

And what people who say the things you are saying aren't thinking about is that if all it takes to cause the United States to panic and completely shut itself down is a moderately souped-up version of the flu, this sort of thing is going to start happening all the time.

If I'm a terrorist, I'm looking at this and thinking, "This is a whole lot easier than sending operatives into the country and having them learn to fly planes, then flying them into buildings to cause panic. All we have to do is watch China. Next time they have a juicy outbreak of something (which they will, because all of these outbreaks start there due to their unsanitary conditions in open air markets and their propensity to eat just about anything that can fog a mirror), we'll send five teams of five healthy people each, get good and infected, then head on over to the US and start visiting nursing homes. Cough on some food, wipe our noses and then smear it on some doorknobs, and then just sit back and watch while we recover in an American hospital, by then probably paid for by American taxpayers."

Who knows how many viruses like this start in China every year that we DON'T know about? It's not like you can trust the information that they tell you.

So this is about about a whole lot more than money, my friend. Amirite?
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 10:05 pm
Posted by colgatiger89
Member since Dec 2019
18 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:16 pm to
Again, this has nothing to do with the death rate....it is simply about the number of people who need hospitalization/ critical care in such a short period of time. Demand>supply = death
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:59 pm to
What happens if they don’t get that critical care?
Posted by The Donald
Member since Jun 2013
316 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:02 am to
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The WORLDWIDE death count may crack 15k.

It’ll crack that in the next few hours!!
The WORLDWIDE death count will be 15-20x’s your prediction of 15k at this rate.
Posted by Tacoma Tiger
Tacoma, WA
Member since Dec 2011
920 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:02 am to
Respiratory failure and death for some of them.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14485 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:04 am to
It’s barely just started
Posted by Russ337
NM
Member since Dec 2013
1473 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:04 am to
Really need an explanation?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164082 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:05 am to
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That’s probably wishful thinking. It looks like around 0.6% will be the lower boundary.

Once we start shoving z paks up everyone’s bunghole the death rate will get close to the flu’s.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:07 am to
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Why will it go down? Because the virus decided to stop killing people or because everyone is locked in their homes?


Because it would’ve killed the people vulnerable to it. Italy has a notorious reputation for having high rates of death with the flu annually.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:33 am to
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We haven’t cracked 15k deaths WORLDWIDE

True...but we will today.

It's not quite over.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:42 am to
Geez I wish I didn’t leave out ‘today’ in that sentence. My point was the death count 4 months after the first confirmed case is still very low.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12108 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:03 am to
15k deaths worldwide is not even what the US ONLY had from H1N1...this is a political hit job on Trump by a bunch of liberal epidemiologists working with the globalists...this is a glorified head cold.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 3:12 am to
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Geez I wish I didn’t leave out ‘today’ in that sentence. My point was the death count 4 months after the first confirmed case is still very low.

I recognize the point you are trying to make. But you missed mine, which is pretty much the same point that most other posters on here have said.

It's not over.

It won't be 100k-1 million dead but Trump cannot come out and say it's over. Do you want Biden to be president?
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37687 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 3:17 am to
Look man, I have something (not saying it’s corona because I haven’t been tested), but I’m dry coughing all hours of the day I’m awake. I go through spells of severe upper chest pain and difficulty breathing. This started over the weekend so I’ve quarantined myself but if it doesn’t get better I’m going to the hospital and you can get fricked
Posted by The Donald
Member since Jun 2013
316 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:57 am to
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won't be 100k-1 million dead b

Do you honestly think there will be less than 100k deaths worldwide?
(Not being snarky, honest question)
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:34 am to
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Do you honestly think there will be less than 100k deaths worldwide?

I was just throwing out a range and I intended it to be for the US stats. We've all heard some large numbers, the upper limits of which most of us agree are not, at all, realistic.

This virus is new and hasn't hit some of the worst countries out there very hard yet. I can easily see 100k deaths worldwide.

This is just my opinion...there is no link.
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