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re: Trump has a Catch 22 on his hands
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:13 am to Metaloctopus
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:13 am to Metaloctopus
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I see. Your point certainly did not come across that way as written, but I understand now. I disagree, however, with the idea that we don't need to expose it, because of its growing popularity, as though this shows that people have accepted it's consequences. This is not to say that everyone can be reached. We know that some people would rather die than be proven wrong. But I believe that the extent of which communism has grown is largely due to poor education on what it actually is. They don't understand it's consequences. People are indoctrinated on the perceived "goodness" that comes from a system of "sharing", but they don't understand the logical conclusions of where that leads. They don't know their history, they don't know economics, they just "feel good" about the promises communism makes.
And if the left won't teach them, who else but us will?
But how long will it take to educate them? The mid-terms are only 4 months away.
Sometimes lessons can only be learned the hard way.
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Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:16 am to FLTech
They've all been Marxist for quite awhile. Will they be forced to finally admit it?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:22 am to Penrod
Has cubs bow chica bow bowed you yet in this thread? 
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:42 am to hogcard1964
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They've all been Marxist for quite awhile. Will they be forced to finally admit it?
Loafer lickers have all been Fascist for quite awhile. Will they be forced to finally admit it?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:05 am to Metaloctopus
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But ignorant young people just see the short term benefits of free stuff, without understanding that those things aren't actually free. And the source where that tax money comes from eventually dries up.
Because they are imagining socialism through the lense of capitalism. They see the immense wealth generated by capitalism and want it redistributed. They think the wealth will continue to be generated at the same level post redistribution.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:11 am to FLTech
Do y’all ever get tired of this grifting?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:50 am to Powerman
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Is Trump a socialist?
I've been thinking a lot about this. Is Trump a card-carrying socialist who walks around talking about the benefits of socialism? Absolutely not.
Does he embrace socialist concepts at times to get himself out of political jams? Absolutely. Look no further than the proposed $12B onetime payment to farmers in the wake of tariff hikes. It certainly bypasses the free market. Not saying i agree or disagree with the tactic, but it certainly has the appearance of socialist tendencies.
And yes, Dumbocrats are guilty of this same thing and worse.
But I think the current strategy of screaming communism and socialism relies heavily on the American public not understanding either concept.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:51 am to Powerman
quote:you probably mean companies and though you are too ignorant to understand, that is precisely what fascism is. about 5 of you really understand fascist Italy pre ww2.
Trump has the government buying stakes in private countries. Is Trump a socialist?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:04 am to SallysHuman
Can you list 5 successful countries that have tried communism in the past?
You Can't
You Can't
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:06 am to SallysHuman
Penrod is one of my favorite posters 
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:09 am to FLTech
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Can you list 5 successful countries that have tried communism in the past? You Can't
Holster your weapons… we’re on the same side- I just failed to express myself properly.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 2:54 pm to Stinger_1066
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But how long will it take to educate them? The mid-terms are only 4 months away.
Sometimes lessons can only be learned the hard way.
I've already addressed that in this thread. And nowhere did I say we'd fix the problems by midterms. I'm talking about the future of this country. We didn't get here overnight. We have to put in as much effort in teaching the current and next generations the dangers of communism as the progressives put in and indoctrinating people into thinking it is good for them.
Will some lessons be learned "the hard way"? Maybe, but doesn't seem like people have learned much from the history of communism. They convince themselves that somebody must have screwed up the plan, and now THEY are going to be the one's to get it right. If you don't want the cycle to keep repeating throughout the world, you have to do more than just sit back and watch it burn, and think that the problem will solve itself.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 2:57 pm to tarzana
Good grief....what a retard!
Posted on 6/28/26 at 3:00 pm to Penrod
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Our problem is that we lost the fight for the school boards and national education establishment. And they are grooming our children for socialism. We need to focus our attention on these areas.
Well of course we lost that fight. I don't think there is a person among us who doesn't understand that the lack of proper education on this matter, and many other issues, is because of who is in control of curriculum. And that's my point. Clearly, if we're going to turn this around, it starts with reforming the education system. that is precisely where my focus is, as opposed to a lot of people who are basically telling me the solution is to let the country burn and start over. Well I don't want my daughter to grow up in a dystopia.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 3:03 pm to CrystalPreserves
Your stupidity never wanes...I guess you have that going for you.
Will it ever get you out of mom's basement?
Will it ever get you out of mom's basement?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:21 am to Metaloctopus
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Clearly, if we're going to turn this around, it starts with reforming the education system. that is precisely where my focus is, as opposed to a lot of people who are basically telling me the solution is to let the country burn and start over.
Things are not nearly as hopeless as many think. If we do nothing their fears will be confirmed. But we will not do nothing. This will turn around. It already is. “Woke” is in disrepute. DEI is in legal peril. The Green nonsense has been put in proper perspective. None of this will revert when democrats gain control.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:58 am to Powerman
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Meanwhile Trump has the government buying stakes in private countries.
What the hell is a private country?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:02 am to tarzana
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What you're talking about is the Democratic Socialist party, who until the MAGA era were rightly regarded as mainstream moderates; centrist.
Uhh.. what???
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