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re: Trump: H1B necessary because Americans lack talent
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:07 am to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:07 am to tiggerthetooth
Wow. I sort of wondered if goldennugget is an outlier with bad luck. It's sad if there are thousands of young males in that situation.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:07 am to onmymedicalgrind
The MD's in specialties from foreign countries in my lifetime have far exceeded western medicine. Chinese medicine and therapy saved my life when western medicine just wanted to throw a lifetime of opioid's at me.
One of my children when they were little-was saved from an incorrect western medicine diagnosis. Where they wanted to do immediate surgery of the pit gland and remove his face from some inept idiot reading an MRI wrong. The specialty Indian doc's, SECOND OPINION was he did not need the surgery and was fine. He was at a Univ. Hospital. That child is now a healthy doctor.
One of my children when they were little-was saved from an incorrect western medicine diagnosis. Where they wanted to do immediate surgery of the pit gland and remove his face from some inept idiot reading an MRI wrong. The specialty Indian doc's, SECOND OPINION was he did not need the surgery and was fine. He was at a Univ. Hospital. That child is now a healthy doctor.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 8:15 am
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:07 am to MemphisGuy
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How would they possibly know without cutting off the H1Bs for a couple years? Do away with them and see if companies start to struggle. My guess is that there are plenty of folks to fill most, if not all, of the positions being filled by H1Bs. Mights cost more, though. Also, the Indians that have been put in positions of hiring staff would have to hold their noses and hire....gasp... Americans.
Of course, it would cost more. That is the scam.
Pardeep from Surat is willing to work for 30% less than Mike from Toledo because getting away from shithole India is nearly priceless. They could pay him less, but then the scam would really come under scrutiny.
Even if Trump's premise is correct, he could roll out a plan to wean us off H-1Bs if he is truly the leader of this America First movement. Identify the industries where you believe we lack talent, and spend the next 5 years training and developing American talent.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:12 am to Bunk Moreland
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Wow. I sort of wondered if goldennugget is an outlier with bad luck. It's sad if there are thousands of young males in that situation.
Its not just sad, its outright dangerous. If you think this has no consequences then you are just delusional.
Every boomer who laughs at this and thinks this just disappears and their 401k and property values go up is just delusional.
We're on the cusp of a major revolution and boomers are still calling youths "entitled and lazy" as they greedily exploit the desperation of foreign labor like slave masters.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:14 am to Hou_Lawyer
Unfortunately for you and the faux “America First” whiners, the US education system isn’t preparing America’s youth for jobs in trade skills or engineering. It’s barely doing an adequate job for the medical field
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:17 am to Rip Torn
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Unfortunately for you and the faux “America First” whiners, the US education system isn’t preparing America’s youth for jobs in trade skills or engineering. It’s barely doing an adequate job for the medical field
Any field that needs higher education is subject to dei so expect that to keep getting worse
We’re going to lose to china regardless why can’t we be like Japan and acknowledge our irrelevance and tell the world we’re full?
Also why jeets? Can’t Eastern Europeans do tech work
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:19 am to L1C4
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Lol. You nailed it.
Juice is a commie loving sum bitch but he nailed that.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:20 am to Rip Torn
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Unfortunately for you and the faux “America First” whiners, the US education system isn’t preparing America’s youth for jobs in trade skills or engineering. It’s barely doing an adequate job for the medical field
You are some brain dead mother fricker. I hope you have kids that get fired for these slave workers.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:21 am to Bunk Moreland
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They will roll out JD to clean up this mess and say something like that.
Bessent is already on FOX this morning saying exactly that and trying to do damage control.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:26 am to Breesus
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Sometimes the choir needs to be preached to if it has lost its way
Not in this case. Or can you show me how we can put together a 50% constituency that will consistently support ending welfare systems? You can’t. No one can.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:28 am to 14&Counting
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Bessent is already on FOX this morning saying exactly that and trying to do damage control.
Trump probably received the results of the McLaughlin Group flash poll on this interview and Trump has been dropping F bombs since 3 am on his advisors on this very unpopular position on H1B and telling them to now go clean up this mess.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:31 am to Rip Torn
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Unfortunately for you and the faux “America First” whiners, the US education system isn’t preparing America’s youth for jobs in trade skills or engineering
I don’t understand people who say this. India’s educational system is horrendous compared to the US.
These companies aren’t hiring foreign workers because they’re more talented. They’re hiring them because they’re cheaper. That’s it.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:35 am to LordSaintly
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:37 am to cajunangelle
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The MD's in specialties from foreign countries in my lifetime have far exceeded western medicine. Chinese medicine and therapy saved my life when western medicine just wanted to throw a lifetime of opioid's at me.
Huh? You dont even know what youre talking about. Name one instance of knowledge that is NOT contained in western medicine literature or research. You cant because you dont even know what the frick you're talking about.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:40 am to tiggerthetooth
X is super pissed. It’s not a Trump friendly place right now.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:40 am to Hou_Lawyer
That quote is a f****** disaster.
The tech bros have his ear and he’s not running for reelection so he’s just doing whatever deals he wants regardless of what his base thinks.
Lost a ton of good will right there.
The tech bros have his ear and he’s not running for reelection so he’s just doing whatever deals he wants regardless of what his base thinks.
Lost a ton of good will right there.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:42 am to cajunangelle
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The MD's in specialties from foreign countries in my lifetime have far exceeded western medicine. Chinese medicine and therapy saved my life when western medicine just wanted to throw a lifetime of opioid's at me.
You can throw out anecdotes all you want, but saying that the MD’s American universities produce when it comes to Americans are worse as a result is illogical.
For one, those same universities discriminate from some of their top applicants because they are white men.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:43 am to Bunk Moreland
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Wow. I sort of wondered if goldennugget is an outlier with bad luck. It's sad if there are thousands of young males in that situation.
Definitely not an outlier. Anyone who works in the tech or tech adjacent space knows what an issue this is.
I cant stand these idiots who think every single American college grad is a lazy entitled leftist who majored in gender studies. The US cranks out thousands of hard working smart capable STEM grads every year. I know because I interview them when I hire for roles.
The other part of the equation that I am glad people are pointing out is that these idiots also automatically assume these Indians who are supposedly super qualified received high quality STEM education in India. Wrong. These indians have fake resumes, fake credentials, and any education or training they do get is solely designed to be the bare minimum to fool an interviewer. They get jobs via proxy interviews and nepotistic hiring managers. The actual talented Indians come to the US to get their education and don't need H1B body shops to get jobs in the US.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:44 am to Stidham8
That's a quite interesting take...Our education system is not great but people from all over the world are trying to attend our schools. We have some of the best students and STEM programs in the world. It is all about cost. We want to reduce cost by hiring foreign labor at lower wages and maximize profit.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:44 am to HurricaneTiger
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For one, those same universities discriminate from some of their top applicants because they are white men.
And Asian. Plenty of Asian undergrads that are US citizens turned down from US medical schools in favor of foreigners and lower performing blacks and women applicants.
Then the women drop out of practicing and then the foreign hordes are imported.
We create every one of our own problems and the answer from both sides seems to be destroy cultures for cheap labor (like slavery).
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