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Posted on 4/5/26 at 5:45 am to SirWinston
quote:What happened to you? You used to be on the side of America.
SirWinston
Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:18 am to hubertcumberdale
quote:
Maybe other US assets in the Middle East but when have Americans on US soil ever been at risk from Iran ?
So those American assets don’t matter because they aren’t on US soil? And who’s to say Americans on US soil aren’t at risk from Iranian funded terror groups? Would you have sung the same tune about Saudi Arabia prior to 911? You sir, have an extremely myopic view of the world.
Iranian backed proxies have killed hundreds of Americans. But I guess those dont count because they aren’t on US soil? fricking moron
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:36 am to NoEmpathy
Counter argument is we are in their “backyard.”
I see this argument all the time from Russia bros who defend their aggression against Ukraine as a natural response to supposed “NATO incursion.”
“But what if Russia put troops in Mexico!?”
I see this argument all the time from Russia bros who defend their aggression against Ukraine as a natural response to supposed “NATO incursion.”
“But what if Russia put troops in Mexico!?”
Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:04 am to RFK
quote:
Counter argument is we are in their “backyard.”
How is that a counter argument? They are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans. It doesn’t matter where they are
Posted on 4/6/26 at 7:35 am to Powerman
quote:
There are some real legs to it. When you start pissing off your allies and start a war without consulting them you would be a complete buffoon to act shocked when they don't join you in the war. It is in fact a master class in stupidity.
True, It seems idiotic- but it’s by design, 4d chess if you will. He has wanted to get the US out of NATO since his first term and this will be the final excuse. Putin will rejoice!
Posted on 4/6/26 at 7:38 am to The_Duke
quote:
Mar 3: "We won the war."
Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
Mar 9: "We must attack Iran."
Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
Mar 11: “You never like to say too ?early you won. We won. In ?the first hour it was over.” Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
Mar 13: "We won the war."
Mar 14: "Please help us."
Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all."
Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me."
Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help."
Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait"
Mar 22: "Iran is Dead"
Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran."
Mar 24: "We’re making progress."
Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.” Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away."
Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO."
Mar 28: No major quote
Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing
Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences."
Mar 31: Claimed a deal was "very close" and that Iran would "do the right thing"
Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon."
Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not
Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen."
Apr 4: Said Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences.
Apr 5: "Open the frickin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."
Posted on 4/6/26 at 7:42 am to PaulDrake
If the Straight of Hormuz is predominantly international waters, how can Iran “open it” or “close it”?
Aren’t we saying to Iran “you can continue with your part of the war but please leave the his piece - one of your few bargaining chips - a chunk of the open seas - out of your war plans?”
Seems an odd ask
Aren’t we saying to Iran “you can continue with your part of the war but please leave the his piece - one of your few bargaining chips - a chunk of the open seas - out of your war plans?”
Seems an odd ask
Posted on 4/6/26 at 7:46 am to NoEmpathy
quote:
I am not a fan of this war. However, the US and their assets/interests have been under attack by Iranian funded proxies for years. If you don’t believe that you are a fricking idiot and it’s pointless to discuss further.
Nobody is disputing that, or the evil of the Iranian regime. The question is why did he choose to attack them now? The inevitable bad outcome has been known for decades- the closing of the Strait, the attacks on neighboring counties, anything he does militarily is an escalation with worsening results than the situation that existed before he started bombing.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 7:50 am to Cuz413
Cuz413
Interesting list. Factor in the nudge of diplomacy with the need to give Wall St hope of a deal. It does reveal non compliance. It also starts a conversation about leaving NATO.
Interesting list. Factor in the nudge of diplomacy with the need to give Wall St hope of a deal. It does reveal non compliance. It also starts a conversation about leaving NATO.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:03 am to Good Times
quote:
It also starts a conversation about leaving NATO.
I've been for this long before this current war.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:05 am to Good Times
quote:
Interesting list. Factor in the nudge of diplomacy with the need to give Wall St hope of a deal. It does reveal non compliance. It also starts a conversation about leaving NATO.
It would be very interesting to see a list of all the people who have made bank from all these varying bipolar statements
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:13 am to PaulDrake
Or, hear me out, we don't attack Iran at the behest of Israel owning our morally corrupt politicians and Iran could still be working on the nukes that they were 2 weeks away from finishing in 1995, and we would still be filling up at 2.20 a gallon right now and talking about the economic come back we were on.
But, instead we have politicians that rape and eat kids and that are also bought and paid for through AIPAC that will put us in such a financial burden with this Iran conflict that we won't have the means to fight back against a tyrannical government.
But, instead we have politicians that rape and eat kids and that are also bought and paid for through AIPAC that will put us in such a financial burden with this Iran conflict that we won't have the means to fight back against a tyrannical government.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:17 am to GTnerd
quote:That is where I am completely baffled. The mid-terms were likely going to be bad anyway, but now? It will be a complete wipeout. This likely will lead to another round of impeachment attempts. It was a stupid time to do this. One day after the mid-terms if Israel must have us do it.
Nobody is disputing that, or the evil of the Iranian regime. The question is why did he choose to attack them now? The inevitable bad outcome has been known for decades- the closing of the Strait, the attacks on neighboring counties, anything he does militarily is an escalation with worsening results than the situation that existed before he started bombing.
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 8:20 am
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:05 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:Are you a functional retard, or do you need a lot of help? Where did I imply that we should nuke Iran? I simply pointed out, that Japan needed a second A-bomb to get them to surrender. Iran is probably going to need more, newly installed leadership taken out before they finally get it thru their head that there is no path to success. Couple that with a civilian uprising, and we'll probably end up seeing mullahs hiding in a hole a la Sadam Hussian.
Lmfao and what explicit reason would we be nuking Iran for you fricking psychopath ?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 8:44 pm to SirWinston
quote:
We've literally cost each European country tens or hundreds of millions of dollars with this ill advised war. They are probably champing at the bit to stick it to Trump.
10s or hundreds of millions! Oh no!
Cutting into the trillions we have saved them on their national defense over the last few decades
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:12 pm to monsterballads
quote:
the man who gave iran a 48-hour ultimatum In the morning.. went silent by 5pm.. iran noticed..
remember TACO.. Trump Always Chickens Out.. he threatened iran's power grid last week.. markets crashed $2 trillion.. he walked it back by monday morning and said "talks are going great".
Taco
Rinse and repeat
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:16 pm to Cuz413
quote:
Mar 3: "We won the war."
Holy shite, are all of those real quotes?
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