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I B Freeman
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Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
More Ethanol Means Higher Prices, and not just for Gasoline

Tariffs, ethanol mandates---when will DJT let up on the American consumer?


kingbob
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
This is one issue where I have been consistently frustrated with Trump on. I am heavily against ethanol as a fuel and ag subsidies as a rule.

It doesn’t want to make me want to vote for a limp wristed cuck never Trumper or a Communist for president, but it is frustrating.
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beerJeep
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Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol

No he isn’t. There are 100% gas gas stations around, easy enough to fill up there.

I b reeeeeeeman strikes again.
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GREENHEAD22
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
I am the same, this is my biggest gripe with him. Hopefully he will just rip the scab off in his 2nd term and but this gigantic BS debacle to an end.


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Crimson Wraith
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
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There are 100% gas gas stations around,


They just opened a new one about 5 miles from my place.


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SSpaniel
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!


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Pelican fan99
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
Ethanol is going nowhere. This was a problem before Trump and will be long after him


highcotton2
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
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More ethanol means higher prices and not just for gasoline


Ethanol is cheaper on a strictly cost to consumer basis as the pump. Why are they implying it makes fuel cost more. E0 is usually at least $.20 more at the pump than e10. ( E0 has maybe 8% more energy)
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frogtown
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
Dude....there are some great pictures of a naked Dem Congresswomen and your posting about ethanol. WGAS.


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MF Doom
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
How does this hurt China?


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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
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Tariffs, ethanol mandates---when will DJT let up on the American consumer?


Will I be forced to pay a fine if I buy non-ethanol fuel?



Dale51
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Ethanol is cheaper on a strictly cost to consumer basis as the pump. Why are they implying it makes fuel cost more.


It drops your gas mileage so you have to buy more gas sooner and f's up small engines.


udtiger
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
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This is one issue where I have been consistently frustrated with Trump on. I am heavily against ethanol as a fuel and ag subsidies as a rule.


Same here.

frick using food for fuel.


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WylieTiger
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
What about steel?


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31TIGERS
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
Stop lying. I haven’t put that garbage ethanol fuel in my vehicles and lawn equipment in years.


I B Freeman
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
Stop lying.

You pay the subsidy on ethanol if you pay taxes whether you use the gas or not.

LINK


TheHarahanian
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There are 100% gas gas stations around


True, and I use them and pay more for pure gasoline.

Then I’m penalized at the grocery store because so many acres of food crops have been turned into fuel crop acres to take advantage of the subsidy. Beef prices are higher because of ethanol.

More than 10 years ago, I’d use ethanol gas, and if I filled up on 10% ethanol, I’d see a corresponding 10% drop in mpg. It added nothing. Then my small engine shop told me to never use ethanol in my lawn equipment, and at that point decided I was done with ethanol in all my engines.

If the gov’t wants to subsidize farmers, there are far less expensive ways to do it.
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Homesick Tiger
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
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Will I be forced to pay a fine if I buy non-ethanol fuel?




No but you'll pay about 20 cents more a gallon for it like I do.


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Auburn1968
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
Ethanol is not really a net gain in energy if all of the energy inputs to make it are accounted for.

Food in the gas tank was never a good idea nor a "green" one.


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jimmy the leg
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re: Trump forcing Americans to buy more ethanol
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You pay the subsidy on ethanol if you pay taxes whether you use the gas or not. 



Trump needs Iowa. After 2020 this may change, but not before. You are cherry picking arguements where you know Trump is hemmed in. This is a weak effort by you. I will gladly spend my extra $3.50 per year for another 4 years of Trump.


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