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re: Trump floats plan to get working illegals brought back legally on a fast-track route
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:10 am to deltaland
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:10 am to deltaland
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I think we need to require proof the businesses cannot staff with American workers instead before we bring them back
I remember when I had to get summer jobs at 14-15 years old to help pay some bills. Can’t imagine some of our youth can’t get paid to pick some strawberries in the summer
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:12 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Why aren't the employers being prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens?
Threatening everyone with legal consequences isn’t going to help change or fix anything but I do totally see where you’re coming from and it makes sense.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:17 am to Ingeniero
An efficiently run guest worker program would be a good thing.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:18 am to 4cubbies
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Threatening everyone with legal consequences isn’t going to help change or fix anything but I do totally see where you’re coming from and it makes sense.
I was just expressing my frustration about the REAL reason we don't have immigration law reform: it would destroy the business model of many industries.
Odds we have a real, national discussion about that? 0%
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:20 am to ABearsFanNMS
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Umm dude, this is something conservatives have been saying for quite some time
"RINOs" maybe. Like I said above, this is "Gang of Eight" stuff, which made MAGA types melt.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:21 am to SallysHuman
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I am going to go out on a limb and guess the process currently or previously in place for getting workers the right way may have been onerous.
It's time to fire up the H1B debate, I suppose
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:21 am to Ingeniero
Honestly I don't like it and I don't like it because you're going to have blue Dei companies basically sending out letters for all of these people and employing them on paper and basically writing it off or getting cash from their families on the side you're literally giving a gaping hole to circumvent our immigration process.
And while I believe in free speech I'm tired of our national anthem getting booed and people degrading the country especially ones that aren't from here so that needs to be addressed to in the immigration process and also what are they doing with the money they make here if it's going to Mexico no they don't need to come back
And while I believe in free speech I'm tired of our national anthem getting booed and people degrading the country especially ones that aren't from here so that needs to be addressed to in the immigration process and also what are they doing with the money they make here if it's going to Mexico no they don't need to come back
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:22 am to BayouBlitz
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If they are here illegally, they have a criminal background. That's what MAGA has been saying for 10 years.
Correct.
But MAGA is also the kings of pivoting on issues as they're told to do so.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:22 am to 4cubbies
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Threatening everyone with legal consequences isn’t going to help change or fix anything but I do totally see where you’re coming from and it makes sense.
Upholding the laws that are already on the books and requiring everyone to meet the established standards would help fix things to a large extent. Not letting there be a double standard and loopholes for entities who play ball politically would be a start.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 9:23 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:22 am to AU86
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If Trump allows this, what was the purpose of making them leave if you are just going to allow them back in?
They are here without documentation. There has been no criminal background check. They may be being paid under the table and not being taxed. This would not be true for those coming in legally to work under a guest worker program.
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It doesn't solve the problems that the invasion brings with it. Overcrowded schools...
Legally residing workers pay taxes, which fund schools. Taxpaying workers aren't the problem.
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demographic change
Soooo...you're implying an uptick in the Hispanic population in your neighborhood is a problem?
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:23 am to Ebridg3
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Honestly I don't like it and I don't like it because you're going to have blue Dei companies basically sending out letters for all of these people
NGOs can hire them, too
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:24 am to IvoryBillMatt
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it would destroy the business model of many industries.
Having to pay workers legal wages?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:25 am to Ebridg3
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Honestly I don't like it and I don't like it because you're going to have blue Dei companies basically sending out letters for all of these people and employing them on paper and basically writing it off or getting cash from their families on the side you're literally giving a gaping hole to circumvent our immigration process.
Partner, you need to get out of this "blue vs red" shite when it comes to illegal immigrants in the work force. There are probably more "Republican" business owners and CEO types driving this shitshow than "blue DEI companies". It is all a game of kickbacks and turning a blind eye.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 9:26 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:26 am to LegendInMyMind
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Upholding the laws that are already on the books and requiring everyone to meet the established standards would help fix things to a large extent
Deporting all undocumented workers without replacements lined up wouldn’t really fix much except make people feel better knowing strangers got deported.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:26 am to LegendInMyMind
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Partner, you need to get out of this "blue vs red" shite when it comes to illegal immigrants in the work force. There are probably more "Republican" business owners and CEO types driving this shitshow than "blue DEI companies". It is all a game of kickbacks and turning a blind eye.
Exactly!
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:27 am to ronricks
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Government shouldn't be picking winners and losers.
How are they doing that?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:27 am to 4cubbies
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Deporting all undocumented workers without replacements lined up wouldn’t really fix much except make people feel better knowing strangers got deported.
I understand that. My main point is that the people/businesses that facilitated this problem should not get a free pass under any circumstances.
ETA: And without a commitment to upholding the laws we already have, this shift by Trump means absolutely nothing because we will be right back in the same mess in a few years.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 9:30 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:28 am to 4cubbies
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Having to pay workers legal wages?
Yes, and worker's compensation, etc....
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:29 am to Ingeniero
This is the entire point. we have the right to know who is coming across the border. they need to be vetted. I have no problem with legal immigration. i have no problem with work visas.
If they have employment lined up they can come, lose employment, then has 14 day to find approved employment or return home and apply again. commit a crime, lose visa and go home.
Require no access to federal/state benefits programs, but pay taxes and SS/Medi as part of getting work visa.
If they have employment lined up they can come, lose employment, then has 14 day to find approved employment or return home and apply again. commit a crime, lose visa and go home.
Require no access to federal/state benefits programs, but pay taxes and SS/Medi as part of getting work visa.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:30 am to Ingeniero
Id be okay with legal migration so long as it means any baby born to them in the US does not make them citizens.
It's not immigration I have a problem with, it's illegal
It's not immigration I have a problem with, it's illegal
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