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re: Trump floats plan to get working illegals brought back legally on a fast-track route
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:50 am to SallysHuman
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:50 am to SallysHuman
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So that employers would have to personally advocate and vouch for each worker they want to keep, an organized process.
Why aren't the employers being prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens?
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:51 am to Ingeniero
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Curious where the PT stands on this.
I don't think bringing back good, hardworking immigrants is a bad idea especially in industries that need them.
Yes, we desperately need them! -- otherwise heads of lettuce will skyrocket to $10 a head and our lawns won't get cut forever!
OH WAIT
Bad idea. Lazy. And abetting the criminal allowance of invaders to begin with.
Already tens of millions of border jumpers invaded America across the towns and cities of the USA. This "floated plan"? A BS smoke & mirrors scheme to excuse the illegal invasion and not having to complete the necessary job of deportation. Let's not forget the millions of military-age men who were red carpeted by treasonous NGOs from Chyna and C. America.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:51 am to Robin Masters
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I have no problem with legal immigrants.
Democrats fricked it for everyone when they left the back door open in order to create a permanent voter base dependent on govt cheese.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:52 am to ronricks
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Government shouldn't be picking winners and losers. They need to go back to the shitholes they came from.
So it should be a blind system? The 50 year old day laborer from Venezuela with TB should be treated the same as a 25 year old Japanese Neurosurgeon when it comes to a work visa?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:52 am to Ingeniero
They should never be able to vote, become a citizen, get welfare, and same with their kids.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:54 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Why aren't the employers being prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens?
I get what you're saying.
I am going to go out on a limb and guess the process currently or previously in place for getting workers the right way may have been onerous... not an excuse, mind you.
Maybe, with a hard reset... there will be simplified provisions for obtaining and being responsible for workers, with more oversight.
Or maybe it is just the quickest, easiest way to skin the cat. I'm okay with that.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:58 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Why aren't the employers being prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens?
Because they fund political campaigns and have lobbyists working every day in DC.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:00 am to SallysHuman
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I get what you're saying.
Of course, the real problem is lack of immigration law reform. There should have been work visas for these people.
It will be interesting if they suspend minimum wage requirements.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:01 am to BamaAggiemom
Kinda agree here.
If they have no arrest record and they come the right way ok a 2nd chance.
But, never be allowed to apply for citizenship and if on public assistance within the first 5 years they have to go back.
Would carve out an exception to citizenship if the served a 4 year military commitment and were honorably discharged.
If they have no arrest record and they come the right way ok a 2nd chance.
But, never be allowed to apply for citizenship and if on public assistance within the first 5 years they have to go back.
Would carve out an exception to citizenship if the served a 4 year military commitment and were honorably discharged.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:01 am to BamaAggiemom
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They should never be able to vote, become a citizen, get welfare, and same with their kids.
I disagree on this part. You incentivize their employers to guide the process towards legal citizenship (as in if they aren't working towards that goal they are fined heavily). If they eventually meet the criteria to earn citizenship, they get it.
They should not be "given" voting rights or anything else until they've met those established goals.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:03 am to LegendInMyMind
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Because they fund political campaigns and have lobbyists working every day in DC.
THIS needs to be shouted from the rooftops.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:04 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Of course, the real problem is lack of immigration law reform. There should have been work visas for these people.
Exactly... this is on the heads of our 535 critters. I'm pleased Trump is trying to find some work arounds that all parties can live with.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:04 am to Sheriff Brackett
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Honestly, not the worst idea if they have no criminal background.
If they are here illegally, they have a criminal background. That's what MAGA has been saying for 10 years.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:05 am to BamaAggiemom
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They should never be able to vote, become a citizen, get welfare, and same with their kids.
I don't agree with this part. Don't half-arse it. Either deport them and don't allow them back, or let them enter legally and start the process towards citizenship. No sitting on the fence with some weird stipulations.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:06 am to BayouBlitz
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If they are here illegally, they have a criminal background. That's what MAGA has been saying for 10 years.
Not if they don't get caught before they self deport and get in line the right way.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:06 am to Ingeniero
I think we need to require proof the businesses cannot staff with American workers instead before we bring them back
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:07 am to ABearsFanNMS
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Umm dude, this is something conservatives have been saying for quite some time and something Trump has endorsed in the past. Pay attention for once in your life and maybe you will catch a clue.
Is this you?
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Give me morrrrreeeee please!
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/illegal-from-el-salvador-refuses-to-comply-with-ice-and-get-out-of-the-car/118188755/
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:09 am to Ingeniero
Wow! I love this. This will force accountability for employers who hire migrants.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:10 am to deltaland
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I think we need to require proof the businesses cannot staff with American workers instead before we bring them back
And people need to get away from the idea that this is a "farmer" and service industry only issue. Most people would be surprised to find out the industries that rely, at least to some extent, on illegal immigrant workers.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 9:10 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:10 am to deltaland
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I think we need to require proof the businesses cannot staff with American workers instead before we bring them back
That's the way it works now... lotta red tape, which incentivizes illegal labor.
How about we skip that part this time, but add on a requirement that any American citizen wanting that job has first dibs, period.
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