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re: Trump ending federal funds for worthless college degrees.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:34 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:34 pm to BBONDS25
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Which, ironically, is one of the lowest paying fields.
Well, like I said in the post, it wasn't considered a "field" or a "trade" back then.
It was considered a calling. Your average pastor back then probably didn't get paid a salary at all. More likely he lived in a supplied rectory and his other needs (food, clothing, coal, etc.) were likewise likely supplied directly by the church.
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:39 pm to wackatimesthree
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You criticized him for bragging then immediately included a brag in an example about how people who are the real deal don't need to brag.
i didn't brag about myself. i've learned the valuable lesson, many times from these very accomplished people, to stay humble. i'm just a cog in the machine that provides the gear to keep these folks doing what they do
i'll never forget being in a bar in jackson hole after an epic day. loudmouths everywhere bragging about all the gnar they shredded that day. one of the dudes in my crew was a cover of magazines type skier and someone asked him if he hit anything huge that day. his reply? bigger than a breadbox
bonds is on here every day talking down to people about wealth and intelligence. i guess he needs that
sad imo but hey, i only control my actions
Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:27 pm to beaux duke
Does your wife’s boyfriend ski with you?
Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:28 pm to beaux duke
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write it out for me shirley
We can eliminate psychology major.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:38 pm to loogaroo
Will this end graduate school? What’s the average earnings for a psych major with only a 4 year degree? What about an actual Psychologist with a PhD? Looks like professional careers (doctor/lawyer/etc) might not be an option for people who need loans for their undergrad major. Many of those majors traditionally didn’t pay well if they stopped their education after only 4 years. Biology, chemistry, English among others are common majors for people planning to attend professional schools.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 7:07 pm to beaux duke
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i didn't brag about myself.
Even if you didn't mean it that way, I'm sure you can see how it could have come across that way.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 7:26 pm to thetempleowl
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the additional 80k a year in living expenses?
Live within your means
Posted on 4/20/26 at 7:40 pm to wackatimesthree
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The original purpose of universities and colleges in America was to train men specifically for ministry (and women in their own seminary program). Which wasn't really seen as a "career field" back then, but a calling to service.
ok sure let's go back to the 1800s. It hasn't changed from when your grandparents were young enough to attend college.Posted on 4/20/26 at 7:45 pm to wackatimesthree
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Even if you didn't mean it that way, I'm sure you can see how it could have come across that way.
that's fair. i can't account for how others interpret what i say but i can see your point. perhaps i could have phrased it better
Posted on 4/20/26 at 7:51 pm to loogaroo
This is close, but what needs to happen is no federal funding for colleges and universities.
Either they provide value and meet a market, or they don't.
Either they provide value and meet a market, or they don't.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 7:59 pm to loogaroo
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Under the proposed rule, if the typical graduate of an undergraduate program does not earn as much as a high school graduate, the program will no longer be eligible for federal student loans. Graduate programs must similarly lead to earnings above those of an average bachelor’s degree holder. Programs that routinely fail to provide students with a reliable return on investment would lose access to federal student loans, and in certain cases, Pell Grants.
Long Overdue.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:26 pm to Dawgfanman
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Is there a list of majors where this is true? Not someone’s guesses. I know a 4 year degree in Bio or Chem doesn’t lead to much earning potential.
3rd Quarter 2024 HS Degree was averaging $946 a week or $49,192 a year.
College majors that pay the least for mid-career workers
Note: This is for an average of all colleges.
Pretty sure dogwalking at Harvard makes 6 figures.
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Median salary for graduates who are 35-45 years old
Top 10 college majors for 2024 that pay the least for mid-career workers.
Early childhood education $48,000
General education $52,000
Elementary education $52,000
Secondary education $55,000
Miscellaneous education $56,000
Social services $56,000
Theology + religion $56,000
Special education $57,000
Family + consumer sciences $59,000
Performing arts $64,000
Health services $65,000
Nutrition sciences $65,000
Psychology $65,000
Anthropology $65,000
Liberal arts $65,000
Foreign language $66,000
Looking into it...
Colleges are going to burn if they go all in on DEI...
Significantly cuts earning potential of class.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:34 pm to imjustafatkid
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ok sure let's go back to the 1800s. It hasn't changed from when your grandparents were young enough to attend college.
I believe if you read my original post I said we could debate when it changed, but that it had definitely changed.
Your claim is that it's never changed.
I don't know how I'm supposed to read your mind to know that you meant something other than what you said, but I don't have that skill.
BTW, when did you graduate from uat?
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:50 pm to wackatimesthree
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Your claim is that it's never changed.
My claim is that it has never changed since anyone alive today was able to attend college.
Normal people who actually have conversations with people would have understood that without trying to change the conversation to claim things have changed since the idea of a college education was invented, which is absolutely ridiculous, was clearly and obviously never being discussed here, and did not need to be clarified.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:53 pm to idlewatcher
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Hope my underwater basketweaving major will be preserved!
Gal I used to date in college had 200K in loans for a liberal arts degree where she went to work for $50K/year after school She is still in the same role. Great ROI!
Them underwater basketweaving degrees can pay off, bro. Just sayin'.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:00 pm to deltadummy
No fed funding for universities……at all…..
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:00 pm to aubie101
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I worked in higher ed for over a decade. If they kill the funding this will an end to a ton of meaningless jobs. I talked about it while employed and people thought I was nuts. To much money involved and students love them some lame degrees
Holy shite we agree on something
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:01 pm to loogaroo
It needs to be pointed out that the proposal isn’t saying that these degrees can’t exist, just that taxpayers won’t fund them.
About $180B of federal loans were in default as of December 2025.
About $180B of federal loans were in default as of December 2025.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:03 pm to beaux duke
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that's fair. i can't account for how others interpret what i say but i can see your point. perhaps i could have phrased it better
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:06 pm to imjustafatkid
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My claim is that it has never changed since anyone alive today was able to attend college.
O.k., that's your claim now. But I was responding to what you said then.
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Normal people who actually have conversations with people would have understood that without trying to change the conversation to claim things have changed since the idea of a college education was invented, which is absolutely ridiculous, was clearly and obviously never being discussed here, and did not need to be clarified.
No, normal people say what they mean instead of expecting other people to read their minds. Or if they communicate poorly, they apologize and move on instead of tripling down. Look at beaux duke above. That's a classy response; you could learn from it.
And you didn't graduate from uat at all, did you?
(How did I know that? Maybe I CAN read minds after all).
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 4:07 pm
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