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re: Trump ending federal funds for worthless college degrees.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:08 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:08 pm to BBONDS25
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Sounds like average salary is the only variable. You must be one of those performing arts majors.
so you think a theater major graduating from harvard is on the same playing field as one graduating from carson-newman?
oh and wrong again. i know you love to make up a safe space reality to protect your fragile ego from the scaries. i cut my teeth slinging steel in the hot sun and sub zero temps. now am the national sales manager for a 100+ million dollar company
sorry cupcake
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:23 pm to beaux duke
Why should we allow people to borrow money that they have no hope of paying back?
A theatre major from an Ivy will more that likely make more that someone with the same degree from a junior college; but they are a small percentage- this proposal is based on sound policy
A theatre major from an Ivy will more that likely make more that someone with the same degree from a junior college; but they are a small percentage- this proposal is based on sound policy
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:29 pm to beaux duke
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so you think a theater major graduating from harvard is on the same playing field as one graduating from carson-newman?
Averages are averages. You clearly weren’t a math major.
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oh and wrong again. i know you love to make up a safe space reality to protect your fragile ego from the scaries. i cut my teeth slinging steel in the hot sun and sub zero temps. now am the national sales manager for a 100+ million dollar company sorry cupcake
I was a vocal performance major for one year. Then I decided I wanted a business degree. It was a joke cupcake. Don’t be so soft. And your 100+ million dollar company should pay you more. You wouldn’t hate wealthy people as much.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:40 pm to dcbl
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Why should we allow people to borrow money that they have no hope of paying back?
A theatre major from an Ivy will more that likely make more that someone with the same degree from a junior college; but they are a small percentage- this proposal is based on sound policy
Take the students who default on student loans. Are there majors, or better yet majors at particular institutions, that produce defaulted student loans at, say, twice the average? Then defund those.
I was a grunt lawyer 2 years out of law school working on a class action against a national for-profit school. it was crazy how many students defaulted on federal loans at that institution. Far higher than liberal arts and dramatic/visual arts majors at non profit institutions. Yet these were "practical degrees"
That is where the real abuse lie - not the sociology or drama majors at the LSUS and Tulanes, etc.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:43 pm to the808bass
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This is the way.
Nah.
This is the same as Trump campaigning on exempting certain groups from taxes he decided to designate winners rather than reforming the whole system.
When they stop the loans for everyone regardless of the degree, that will be the way.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:47 pm to imjustafatkid
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No it didn't.
It definitely changed.
One can argue when it changed, but yeah, it changed.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:50 pm to BigPerm30
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Need to go after the predatory lending practices as well.
Considering the recent federal changes to grad plus loan limits for "professionals", not only will that not happen, but predatory private lending is going to explode.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:52 pm to Pettifogger
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Definitely support. But my first reaction is, if compared to that school, does a school contract and make it "communications with emphasis on gender studies" to lump in gender studies with students who go on to use a "real" communications degree?
No, unless the program is so small that it needs to be lumped with the enrollments of similar programs to meet the minimum threshold.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:53 pm to wackatimesthree
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It definitely changed.
One can argue when it changed, but yeah, it changed.
To...what? The purpose of a college degree has always been to get the knowledge needed for a career field.
It's the same exact conversation my grandparents had when they went to college, my parents had when they went to college, I had when I went to college, and my oldest had while looking for colleges. There has been no discernible change other than cost.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:54 pm to JimEverett
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I was a grunt lawyer 2 years out of law school working on a class action against a national for-profit school. it was crazy how many students defaulted on federal loans at that institution. Far higher than liberal arts and dramatic/visual arts majors at non profit institutions. Yet these were "practical degrees"
That is where the real abuse lie - not the sociology or drama majors at the LSUS and Tulanes, etc.
Default rates are also under additional scrutiny, which could close many proprietary schools.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:55 pm to BigPerm30
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Need to go after the predatory lending practices as well.
What "predatory lending practices" are those?
Remember the recent thread about the leftist who finally answered the question of what policies he supports and it was basically a list of parroted talking points that mean nothing?
Your post would fit right into that list. It would go great with, "Common sense immigration reform," or "Taxing billionaires to pay their fair share," or "Common sense gun control."
And almost 40 people have mindlessly upvoted it so far. Probably some of the same people who ragged the leftist who compiled the similar list in the recent thread I referenced.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:58 pm to loogaroo
Whatever will we do without these degrees? Oh the humanity.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:00 pm to BBONDS25
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Sounds like average salary is the only variable.
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Averages are averages. You clearly weren’t a math major.
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You wouldn’t hate wealthy people as much.
hey everyone! bbonds is wealthy! just ask him!
i work with some of the best athletes in the world. you know what almost all have in common? they never brag about how good they are
food for thought
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:06 pm to SantaFe
For fire brigade on a carrier?
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:09 pm to beaux duke
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hey everyone! bbonds is wealthy! just ask him!
if that’s what you took from my post, you clearly weren’t an English major. quote:
i work with some of the best athletes in the world. you know what almost all have in common? they never brag about how good they are food for thought
Your lack of self-awareness is staggering. You don’t see it do you?
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:11 pm to BBONDS25
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Your lack of self-awareness is staggering. You don’t see it do you?
write it out for me shirley
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:18 pm to loogaroo
Good!!
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:24 pm to imjustafatkid
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The purpose of a college degree has always been to get the knowledge needed for a career field.
No, it hasn't.
The original purpose of universities and colleges in America was to train men specifically for ministry (and women in their own seminary program). Which wasn't really seen as a "career field" back then, but a calling to service.
Most curriculums were centered around Latin, Greek, and ethics/moral science.
It wasn't until after the Civil War that universities began to replace their British model with a German model that began to resemble what universities are like today.
A few American doctors studied medicine in Scotland pre-Civil War, but most learned as apprentices. Which is how almost everyone learned everything back then, including lawyers and doctors. Not by going to college.
Things didn't start to morph into what we have now until after the land grant colleges in the late 1800s.
At the turn of the century there were fewer than 1,000 colleges and 160,000 students—that's out of 76 million Americans, or 2.3% of Americans went to college.
By contrast, by 1950 that had doubled to 6% and it doubled again by 1970 at 12%.
Now it's around 40%.
That's a 20 fold increase since 1900.
College didn't become the combination of being a high-tech trade school combined with a 4 year summer camp for adultolescents until at least the 30s or so. Before then people still got job training almost exclusively on the job, by way of apprenticeships.
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It's the same exact conversation my grandparents had when they went to college, my parents had when they went to college, I had when I went to college, and my oldest had while looking for colleges. There has been no discernible change
Colleges have been around a hell of a lot longer than your grandparents.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:25 pm to wackatimesthree
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The original purpose of universities and colleges in America was to train men specifically for ministry (and women in their own seminary program
Which, ironically, is one of the lowest paying fields.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:30 pm to beaux duke
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write it out for me shirley
You criticized him for bragging then immediately included a brag in an example about how people who are the real deal don't need to brag.
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