re: Trump co-defendant Jenna Ellis enters plea deal in Georgia case

The Fulton County election workers did get poll watchers to leave and proceeded to do illegal shite after they left and they have one of those poll watchers on video talking about it.

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There is no real chilling effect here.

She is not being prosecuted for "advocating for her client"; she is being prosecuted for knowingly making false statements during that advocacy.

The reason there is no real chilling effect is because lawyers are already prohibited from doing that by the rules of ethics. That is why she was censured by the Colorado bar back in March.

An attorney can spin facts any way they want in advocating for their client. But they cannot knowingly present false facts. And doing so in order to coerce legislatures to reverse an election results should be criminal.

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Excellent post.

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In this case, it’s a reflection of my complete lack of a desire to have a meaningless and unfruitful dialogue with someone who wouldn’t admit 2+2=4 if it were a political argument.

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Yeah, someone who wants to pretend that our legal system is being applied blindly without regarding the political loyalties isn't interested in an honest conversation. No doubt that it's always happened in various instances, but from the BLM riots on it's been systemic.

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but in her own statement she says she was relying on what the senior attorneys told her. So she could not have committed the crime of intentionally lying to the state senate. That is ignored.

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It is ignored because you are wrong. I know your logic sounds reasonable on the surface, but an attorney has a duty to avoid making false statements. Remaining willfully ignorant about the veracity of your statements is the same as knowingly making a false statement.

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So they give her probation and require she say she was lying and the election is legit

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They did not require her to recite her written statement. And no one forced her to admit to the Colorado Bar that the election was legit.

Someone above said this looked like a hostage video. It is actually someone who truly regrets flushing her own integrity down the drain. She made that statement because she wanted to. Powell and Cheseboro did not make such statements.

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They did not require her to recite her written statement. And no one forced her to admit to the Colorado Bar that the election was legit.

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you know your procedure. You also know this is just not true.

This was the plan the entire time. Dismiss the concerns about the election by prosecuting the opposition. Threaten their lives and careers, then tell them if they admit there was no issues with the election they get a slap on the wrist and go their merry way.

That is precisely what happened and every single person here knows that. You simply choose to be ok with it because of your party affiliation.

It’s fascism.

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It is ignored because you are wrong. I know your logic sounds reasonable on the surface, but an attorney has a duty to avoid making false statements.

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Every defense attorney that has had a client lie to them shall be prosecuted!

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Remaining willfully ignorant about the veracity of your statements is the same as knowingly making a false statement.

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You’re making a leap without support. Trusting co-counsel would rarely be described as remaining willfully ignorant.

There was no crime here. She was politically prosecuted and took the plea to avoid what was being threatened

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She admitted the story about the Fulton County officials ordering poll watchers to leave while they continued working is a false story that the Trump team presented as true.

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With the threat of 5 years being pointed at her head.

*gasp*

She didn't want to go down for a RICO charge. I can't blame her for that. She's a lawyer and must've reasonably calculated that that might happen. So did Chesebro and Powell and Hall.

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She didn't want to go down for a RICO charge. I can't blame her for that. She's a lawyer and must've reasonably calculated that that might happen. So did Chesebro and Powell and Hall.

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Yep. They are accused of crimes they didn’t commit and threatened with putting their lives in the hands of a Fulton County jury….OR we can just give you probation if you do what we say. Every single person ever is taking that deal. It doesn’t mean prosecuting them in the first place wasn’t horribly corrupt.

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Upside down world, Bonds.

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It certainly is Dr. fascist.