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re: Trump calls for nuclear option, time to eliminate the filibuster
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:30 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:30 am to hawgfaninc
The filibuster is bad for this country. I have no problem with 60 votes for certain types of bills but I just can’t abide by the ability for a minority party to stall the actual voting on bills.
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:32 am to ArmyHogs
Who is not getting paid exactly?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:33 am to 3down10
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I don't know a single person IRL who gives a shite.
You’ll care when you’re welcoming DC and Puerto Rico as states.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:34 am to MMauler
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Despite pressure from the far left, democrats haven’t done it yet when they have had power. For the first two years of the Biden presidency, he had a majority in both chambers. There will calls to eliminate the 60 vote filibuster, and many people thought they were gonna do it. But they resisted because they realized Republicans will also have the same type of majority again one day.
Yes they have. 12 years ago when they packed the courts with liberal judges. The went with the nuclear option then.
And they didn’t have enough Dim support to do anything but install judges. Manchin wouldn’t vote for it.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:35 am to Diego Ricardo
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The filibuster is bad for this country. I have no problem with 60 votes for certain types of bills but I just can’t abide by the ability for a minority party to stall the actual voting on bills.
Everybody needs to go back and read the Federalist Papers. The Senate is supposed to be slow. It keeps maniacs like Sanders and Schumer from ramming things down our throats.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:38 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Indeed.
This is exactly what the dems want
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:38 am to redandright
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go back and read the Federalist Papers
And while we are at it, let's go back to pre 17th Amendment.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:41 am to scottydoesntknow
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This is such a loser mentality. Dems wont hesitate to do it
Say hello to the four Democrats senators from DC and Puerto Rico.
Say hello to the 6 new SCOTUS justices-Warren, AOC, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, Eric Swalwell, and Merrick Garland.
ETA the shutdown is not hurting the GOP. The Dems are counting on the GOP panicking once SNAP ends. Dem Base-public service union is already whining about Dem inaction.
The GOP needs to hold fast.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 11:44 am
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:46 am to hawgfaninc
Lots of triggered panicians in this thread. Trump is playing this masterfully, but keep sky screaming like a libtard 
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:46 am to redandright
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Say hello to the four Democrats senators from DC and Puerto Rico.
Say hello to the 6 new SCOTUS justices-Warren, AOC, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, Eric Swalwell, and Merrick Garland.
This
The people who want to nuke the filibuster are incapable of thinking about the future ramifications
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:48 am to jlnoles79
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:52 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
So you are arguing that the Dems won't end the filibuster if they take power again. You might be right, but the Dems haven't been shy about setting a new precedent to get what they want.
My thoughts, 1. we don't do it, Rs eventually cave (it's what they do best) and the Dems nuke the filibuster when they achieve power again or 2. we do it and the Dems do it too when they achieve power again.
My thoughts, 1. we don't do it, Rs eventually cave (it's what they do best) and the Dems nuke the filibuster when they achieve power again or 2. we do it and the Dems do it too when they achieve power again.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:11 pm to cafeaulait19
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Can Republicans eliminate the filibuster now, and put in back in place later? While have majority, use it, then just in case, reverse it?
They could but the precedent would have been set that the majority can change their rules whenever they want to pass something the minority does not want. Once the filibuster is broken, there is no going back, this is why it's very controversial in both parties to break it.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:19 pm to BarnHater
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Muh future ramifications.
Like I said lol
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:57 pm to fwtex
Thank you for the explanation.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:48 pm to redandright
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Everybody needs to go back and read the Federalist Papers. The Senate is supposed to be slow. It keeps maniacs like Sanders and Schumer from ramming things down our throats.
I’m not against legislation being slow but I am for our elected officials having to state their position with votes. I didn’t say anything about passing quickly. I just want votes on record. Filibuster lets folks weasel around on their positions.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:17 pm to Judnnc
quote:neither side has done it because both sides know the ramifications
Are you really naive enough to think the communists won’t use it anyway first chance they get?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:47 pm to Diego Ricardo
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not against legislation being slow but I am for our elected officials having to state their position
When the vote is taken on cloture-ending the filibuster-you know how people are voting.
Just imagine the damage Democrats can do with no filibuster. They’ll only need 50+1 to give statehood to DC and Puerto Rico, and pack SCOTUS.
That’s too high a price to pay.
The shutdown will end-they always do. The GOP is winning on this.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:00 pm to redandright
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They’ll only need 50+1 to give statehood to DC and Puerto Rico
What’s wrong with DC and PR becoming states besides it being bad for GOP math? My opinion is we did not hold onto territory this long without integrating it as a state until the 20th century. Columbia being a district rather state doesn’t really make sense anymore because we do not have N v. S sectional politics. With territories like PR, we either need to start their path to statehood or let them declare independence. I think it is antithetical to the spirit of our founding to have perpetual territorial holdings that have a 2nd tier status in many respects.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:05 pm to hawgfaninc
You mean the filibuster that really isn't a filibuster. As in no marathon speech, just a speechless filibuster. So how come the Republicans are having a hissyfit cause President Trump is threatening to use the "nuclear option" to eliminate the no filibuster filibuster?
Pull the trigger on this Mr. President - end this absurdity.
Pull the trigger on this Mr. President - end this absurdity.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 8:06 pm
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