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re: Trump and Elon are talking to Zelensky to end the war
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:36 pm to HottyToddy7
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:36 pm to HottyToddy7
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He is going to tell him that he isn't getting any more funding or support. Z will have no defense and Putiin can win the war. Z's only chance at a non loss is to come to the table with Putin with Trump as the moderator. Draw some lines and call it a day.
True, not a lot of options with no money and very little fighting capable citizens left.
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:36 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Miss Lindsey just started cutting herself.
Rogan's impression of she/her this week had my sides hurting.
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This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:38 pm to Scream4LSU
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I'm not sure Z will take anything less than the return of all territory though and Putin isn't gonna give it up. Not sure what deal would save face on both sides.
Keep some or lose all. Z has nothing without our tax money
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:39 pm to Scream4LSU
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I'm not sure Z will take anything less than the return of all territory though and Putin isn't gonna give it up. Not sure what deal would save face on both sides.
You serious Clark? That pussy is gonna have to sell all his fake para military gear to pay his rent shortly
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:39 pm to oklahogjr
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This is a terrible precedent for either side to set. We want the US to be able to negotiate in good faith with whoever is in charge. Not potentially or will be in charge eventually.... Imagine a Democrat wins the next cycle, and starts calling world leaders saying wait till trump gets out and I'll find your war no problem. It's an issue.
Did Reagan have zero correspondence with the Iranians prior to taking office regarding the hostages?
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:41 pm to Jaydeaux
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You serious Clark? That pussy is gonna have to sell all his fake para military gear to pay his rent shortly
I don't know his runway with the money he has right now but it can't be much. Europe is tapped out and he will be left in the cold.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:41 pm to Jwho77
That was priceless
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:41 pm to oklahogjr
First, we do not know anything other than some mainstream media article. For all you know Biden asked Trump to talk to him. We know nothing.
Second, explain to me who is in charge?
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negotiate in good faith with whoever is in charge.
Second, explain to me who is in charge?
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:46 pm to oklahogjr
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Imagine a Democrat wins the next cycle, and starts calling world leaders
I don't have to imagine it. That shite already happens.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:46 pm to Pettifogger
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a vacuum perhaps you're right
We have a completely feeble and absent POTUS and an incapable VP who hasn't been involved in governance for multiple months. The country is leaderless and being run by bureaucrats who are all now lame ducks at high levels.
So, is the alternative to mostly just sit idly by while the war rages for 3 more months before any meaningful effort to talk about where we go from here can begin?
I think this type of thing could be handed off. I definitely think having officials negotiate before they have all the facts is a bad idea... That transition team and time are super important to get a good handoff and exchange of power. If it's coordinated with Biden no issue. If it's just trump back channeling it and then bringing in Elon(which is strange) that would be bad precedent no matter what anyone feels about current situation.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:46 pm to NashvilleTider
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”
-Upton Sinclair
-Upton Sinclair
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:47 pm to oklahogjr
What are the Russian demands for things to come to an end?
We know Ukraine wants territory back, which won’t happen, and they’ll have no choice but to give up that territory, or risk losing financial/military support from the US. Is Putin ok with taking the land they have now, bringing the war to an end, and have Ukraine’s military and country still being financed and supported by the US?
We know Ukraine wants territory back, which won’t happen, and they’ll have no choice but to give up that territory, or risk losing financial/military support from the US. Is Putin ok with taking the land they have now, bringing the war to an end, and have Ukraine’s military and country still being financed and supported by the US?
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:49 pm to NashvilleTider
Tell him to see some of that money back this way while they are at it.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:53 pm to sta4ever
Redraw Borders to Feb 2022
DPR and PRL become a sovereign nation and buffer between Ukraine and Russia.
Ukraine signs neutrality pact and pledges to not join NATO/EU.
DPR and PRL become a sovereign nation and buffer between Ukraine and Russia.
Ukraine signs neutrality pact and pledges to not join NATO/EU.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:54 pm to oklahogjr
Trump isn’t just any President Elect. He was President already just 4 years ago.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:55 pm to sta4ever
Putin said he only wants the land where russians are living.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 1:01 pm to oklahogjr
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This is a terrible precedent for either side to set. We want the US to be able to negotiate in good faith with whoever is in charge. Not potentially or will be in charge eventually.... Imagine a Democrat wins the next cycle, and starts calling world leaders saying wait till trump gets out and I'll find your war no problem. It's an issue.
Why isn't Jimmy Carter dying in prison for 100 separate violations of the Logan Act?
Posted on 11/8/24 at 1:05 pm to oklahogjr
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This is a terrible precedent for either side to set.
Like threatening another country to drop a case because you and your son are involved in bribery schemes in that case?
Posted on 11/8/24 at 1:07 pm to Scream4LSU
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I'm not sure Z will take anything less than the return of all territory though and Putin isn't gonna give it up. Not sure what deal would save face on both sides.
You seem to be under the misconception that Zelensky has a say in the matter. Lol.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 1:08 pm to Scream4LSU
-our funding stops
-Russia keeps the Donbas
=A full audit on where our money went
=Once we discover all the theft, cargo pants goes to Angola, open population, and you play his piano playing skit on a loop on the CCTV in the prison to make certain the prisoners welcome him...
-Russia keeps the Donbas
=A full audit on where our money went
=Once we discover all the theft, cargo pants goes to Angola, open population, and you play his piano playing skit on a loop on the CCTV in the prison to make certain the prisoners welcome him...
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