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re: Today’s Jerusalem Post
Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:46 am to tide06
Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:46 am to tide06
quote:
Even the crusaders didn't liquidate the entire arab population of the cities they conquered
And now the Arabs have conquered them.
On the current trajectory Islam will displace Christianity as the world's religion.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 9:48 am
Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:50 am to tide06
saw this in the FB
Hamas just released casualty figures for their dead between 7/10 2023-2025.
31,754 Men.
20,179 Children.
10,427 Women,
4,813 Elderly.
TOTAL 67,173.
Two comments;
1. They say there are two million Gazans. Assuming these Hamas figures are correct and not exaggerated, this is the worst genocide ever commited in warfare in a positive sense,
According to Hamas, the all powerful IDF could only kill less than 68,000 Gazans in two years of intense urban warfare by land and by air.
If this is a genocide, the IDF is truly the most incompetant army in the world.
2. As Hamas includes teenagers up to the age of 18 in their child category, and we know they recruit teenagers from the age of 15 into their terror units we can include a portion of their child figures as well as elderly into their dead combatant figures.
3. We end up with the ratio of one combatant to one civilian (as recorded by global experts in urban warfare, including Richard Kemp, Andrew Fox, and John Spencer).
This ratio of one combatant to one civilian death in Gaza, as the lowest ever ratio in the history of urban warfare, still applies in Gaza as the war seems to be coming to its current close.
The morality of the IDF has just been confirmed by no less than Hamas.
Barry Shaw,
Israel Institute for Strategic Studies
Hamas just released casualty figures for their dead between 7/10 2023-2025.
31,754 Men.
20,179 Children.
10,427 Women,
4,813 Elderly.
TOTAL 67,173.
Two comments;
1. They say there are two million Gazans. Assuming these Hamas figures are correct and not exaggerated, this is the worst genocide ever commited in warfare in a positive sense,
According to Hamas, the all powerful IDF could only kill less than 68,000 Gazans in two years of intense urban warfare by land and by air.
If this is a genocide, the IDF is truly the most incompetant army in the world.
2. As Hamas includes teenagers up to the age of 18 in their child category, and we know they recruit teenagers from the age of 15 into their terror units we can include a portion of their child figures as well as elderly into their dead combatant figures.
3. We end up with the ratio of one combatant to one civilian (as recorded by global experts in urban warfare, including Richard Kemp, Andrew Fox, and John Spencer).
This ratio of one combatant to one civilian death in Gaza, as the lowest ever ratio in the history of urban warfare, still applies in Gaza as the war seems to be coming to its current close.
The morality of the IDF has just been confirmed by no less than Hamas.
Barry Shaw,
Israel Institute for Strategic Studies
Posted on 10/13/25 at 9:52 am to tide06
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civilian population
Are they really civilians when at any moment any one of them will gladly strap on a vest and walk into a gathering of Jews or Christians and blow themselves up killing dozens of people?
Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:47 am to djmed
My position isn’t that an ethnic cleansing had taken place.
It’s that it was being proposed by Bibi.
That’s what Trump just averted.
It’s that it was being proposed by Bibi.
That’s what Trump just averted.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:50 am to wallowinit
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Are they really civilians when at any moment any one of them will gladly strap on a vest and walk into a gathering of Jews or Christians and blow themselves up killing dozens of people?
0-12 year old children are civilians and shouldn’t be liquidated. Period.
That’s my position, what is yours?
How about infants? You down with wiping them out too?
Please be clear about what is acceptable to you.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:00 am to tide06
1. there are no absolutes, in WWII on Okinawa the Japanese would strap a bomb to a kid or woman then make them walk towards US soldiers then remote blow it up when she reached them. This was portrayed in the Pacific and was written about by Eugene Sledge in With the Old Breed. What would you do?
2. Maybe Hamas shouldn't have slaughtered women and children from 0-12 on Oct 7, then ran back home to hide behind their own women and children of 0-12.
Not everything is black and white.
2. Maybe Hamas shouldn't have slaughtered women and children from 0-12 on Oct 7, then ran back home to hide behind their own women and children of 0-12.
Not everything is black and white.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 11:01 am
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:13 am to extremetigerfanatic
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1. there are no absolutes, in WWII on Okinawa the Japanese would strap a bomb to a kid or woman then make them walk towards US soldiers then remote blow it up when she reached them. This was portrayed in the Pacific and was written about by Eugene Sledge in With the Old Breed. What would you do?
I would not liquidate the entire population of Okinawa. That's what I would not do.
You want to answer for that when you die that's on your conscience. I'm 100% opposed to whatever you would like to call that.
If you're a soldier and a child or woman refuses commands to stay back, that's a horrible element of a brutal war where the soldier is excused for having to make an impossible decision.
That's completely different than politicians proposing the outright elimination of an entire people which is what the end game proposal as per Bibi was here.
It was evil when the nazis attempted it with the jews and it would be evil if the Netanyahu government did it today.
Thank God and Donald Trump that we didn't see it take place in this case.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:20 am to Timeoday
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I can not and will not ever trust any group from that part of the world.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:26 am to weagle1999
Someone needs to hit you in the head with a Jerusalem post.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:30 am to cajunangelle
Apparently Dr Demento is alive and well in Israel.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:32 am to tide06
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I would not liquidate the entire population of Okinawa. That's what I would not do.
israel is just wholesale liquidating people in gaza? how are they doing that? Nazi gas chamber style? American Indian style, scalping heads? Maybe the are doing it USAF style with an atomic bomb?
bombastic statements don't make your point
what do you think would happen if an armed insurgence crossed from mexico into chula vista and san diego and killed 1500 people and took 250 hostages back to tijuana? And then 6 months after whatever happens does happen, you find out 100 are still in Mexico but they are now in Mexico city and they are being held in the homes of mexican journalists and politicians?
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 11:36 am
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:33 am to extremetigerfanatic
He’s just repeating what he’s told to say
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:34 am to tide06
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That's what I would not do.
It's easy for critical western voices to sit on the sideline and say Israel is going about their war in the wrong way, but nobody can provide an alternative to how the war should be prosecuted.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:45 am to extremetigerfanatic
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israel is just wholesale liquidating people in gaza?
No. I clearly stated that is IS NOT happening. No genocide took place in this conflict period.
My concern was with what Bibi was proposing to do. His proposal was genocidal because the civilians couldn’t leave and I’m opposed to that.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 11:54 am to stout
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:07 pm to teke184
Does it represent something?
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:29 pm to tide06
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It was evil when the nazis attempted it with the jews and it would be evil if the Netanyahu government did it today.
Not a valid comparison – at all.
Think about it.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:35 pm to Timeoday
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trust any group from that part of the world
You don't trust the good guys? Cause the Israelis are clearly the good guys. The Turks, the Iranians, Qatar and the rest are not. Sometimes the Jordanians give a good effort. There is your cheat sheet.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:49 pm to stout
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Shouldn't they put Biden on there since our MSM claims all Trump did was steal Joe's already in place peace deal?
Someone should edit the photo to remove Trump and fark in a picture of the autopen.
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