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Today's Democrats -- trying to outlaw your gas appliances; good luck with hot water...

Posted on 10/31/26 at 9:14 pm
Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
2096 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 9:14 pm
... after the hurricane.

Similar to the way their friends in Europe have driven up the cost of everything for their citizens by cutting their own production of fuels....

and then having to buy fuel from Russia.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
11906 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 9:15 pm to
This is yet another example of why Republicans need to get out to vote Tuesday.
Posted by rtr72
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
1065 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 9:16 pm to
Exactly
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70540 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 9:23 pm to
Guess what?

Gas water heaters are about to triple in price bc of laws already in place.

I was told if your water heater breaks go tank less or prepare to pay. And tankless ain't cheap.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15405 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 9:43 pm to
Also the benefits of a gas tankless go away with an electric tankless water heater.

A 100,000 btu NG tankless is equal to a 29kW electric tankless water heater.

29kW is larger the the electric load of most houses



Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
75981 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 10:37 pm to
Tank water heaters that use gas are very efficient.
It's silly to keep changing them.
I hate that they made changing the thermocouple so hard.
Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1553 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

I hate that they made changing the thermocouple so hard.


Just bypass it, problem solved.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
75981 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 1:12 am to
I never bypass the safety systems. The thermocouple tells the unit the pilot is on.
Bypassed the gas valve can open and fill the areas with unburnt gas
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
40479 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 4:02 am to
Gas heat was the norm during most of my life (minus safety-cutoffs and I don’t recall anyone in our community getting blown away. We were taught to watch out for leaks.

Same with all these highly problematic Sensors that cost big time.

They should invent a ‘cut-off’ for violent sociopaths who kill a thousand times more people than a hot water heater ever did. Maybe AI will. Indirectly so.

Herding cats seldom pays off as it comes with a heavy price.
Posted by Rockne
Member since Jul 2021
38 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 4:25 am to
WTF you talking about?

Do you have a link?

I’m having my two gas water heaters replaced this next week for what seems a very reasonable price.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
20686 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 5:49 am to
Define reasonable.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
21318 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:38 am to
Reasonable price ? I had 2 28 year old gas water heaters went out 6 months apart this year and I priced out the first one at 3K for them to replace. I bought it myself at HD and tugged it upstairs to 2nd floor attic and changed out for less than 700.00 for a 50gl tank., same when second one went out. No way was 3K rack reasonable. One of my sons tankless went out and the wanted 6K to replace or 3K if he bought the tank himself (1200.00) which is easier to change than a 50gl attic tank with less disposal.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 6:39 am
Posted by Rockne
Member since Jul 2021
38 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:42 am to
$1650 each. Bradford White 40 gallons, better than the “comparable”ones you can get from Lowe’s or Home Depot.

Includes all fittings and removal of the old ones from my second story attic.

Would have been $200 cheaper/each if they were in a first floor garage.

Other bids I got were considerably more expensive.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
20686 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:59 am to
That is good. I'm looking at $1925 ea for two 50 gallons or two Renai tankless for $4500 each.

Debating atm.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
75981 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:41 am to
Idk. Even 1950s gas valves have thermocouples. The valve can't open unless the thermocouples are hot. It makes a micro voltage signal. Even then still in use 1940s O Keefe and Merits you have Robert Shaw safety valves. I actually can't think of a way to bypass a thermocouple.
They need to be heated. Anyway the two most common fail points on a water heater are the thermocouple and the glass fuse. Most don't know about the latter. Then all heaters that don't get their anodes serviced usually start to rot out.

Anyway getting on topic. Gas tank heaters haven't changed much other than their safety systems. And the access to the flame not being open.

This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 7:44 am
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
11153 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:49 am to
Natural gas is the cleanest fossil fuel we have and there is tremendous supply.

Why would this be a good idea?
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
7844 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 8:25 am to
Muh Climate Change
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
7901 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 8:31 am to
quote:

I was told if your water heater breaks go tank less or prepare to pay. And tankless ain't cheap.

Why would a tank water heater be going up in price?

If anybody goes tankless, don't put it on an outside wall if you get freezing temps.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
44588 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Renai tankless


Is the shite! Get the big one. Three teenagers and never run out of hot water. Only drawback is they still need electricity to work. I also have a gas Cummins whole house generator that solves that problem.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 8:38 am
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
20686 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 8:44 am to
Yes, they're great. I've had them in two previous houses. Contemplating putting current house on the market...and they're great for resale value.
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