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re: Today I find myself seriously questioning the 2020 election

Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:43 am to
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6864 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:43 am to
Best thing that could have happened, otherwise we’d be looking at the next 4 years with dem leadership and a hardline push towards DEI, green deal, ultra woke policies. As it stands we are about to go into at least two years of unhindered GOP control and if Dems want to save their party they are going to have to abandon their radical left position and move back more towards the middle and a bill clinton era style platform
This post was edited on 11/6/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:48 am to
The absolute best get out the vote effort in Republican history and we’re supposed to believe 3 MILLION less people voted for Trump?!

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2020: Trump 74M Biden 81M 2024: Trump 71M Harris 66M


Truly criminal shennanigans and statute of limitations doesn’t apply to federal election fraud.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59614 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:49 am to
Welcome to the club, finally.

There are literally TONS of data points that pointed to tons of fraud. But the most basic and obvious was the 81M votes.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59614 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:52 am to
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Nothing will be done about it. They'll insist on playing nice.


What will be done about it is more of what’s been done about it so far…grass roots efforts to force local and state governments to stop cheating.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25430 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:53 am to
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Maybe.



Damn, that was a lot of deep fakes.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
5912 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:53 am to
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2016: Trump 63M Clinton 66M
2020: Trump 74M Biden 81M
2024: Trump 71M Harris 66M

I'm not sure all mail in ballots and removing any safety net of verification across so many states was capable of getting to that 81 million. It doesn't add up.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35805 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:56 am to
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towards the middle and a bill clinton era style platform


Why do people keep trying to paint Slick as some moderate? He started the modern Democratic Party on the fast track to cultural Marxism. It was just the fact America rejected that and the GOP took over both houses during his Presidency with the Contract For America that reined him in.
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
411 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:58 am to
No shite, Sherlock. I watched it get stolen in real time. I saw the fake ballots being delivered in Philly.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6864 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 12:03 pm to
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Why do people keep trying to paint Slick as some moderate? He started the modern Democratic Party on the fast track to cultural Marxism. It was just the fact America rejected that and the GOP took over both houses during his Presidency with the Contract For America that reined him in.



Because it’s WAYYYY left of that now
Posted by Pitt Road
Floriduh
Member since Aug 2017
979 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 12:13 pm to
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Joes a relatable guy, Jack. From Scranton Pee Aye. Likable to the core. Wife died in a wreck. Son died in a dozen different ways in a dozen different countries, Jack. Joe is everyman, a magnet for the average guy. Smart too and married a doc.


And Corn Pop was a bad dude!
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19104 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 12:17 pm to
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But yesterday proves that a truly awful candidate simply can't win - and not because they will vote for the other guy. Rather, they just won't show up. Which is exactly what happened. She got like 17 million fewer votes - and Trump only got 3 or 4 million less.


The 2020 narrative was that Trump was an unlikable candidate (even though he received 75 million votes). IOW, voters were willing to vote for Rs but nor for the unlikable Trump.

What is not being accounted for is the '20 pre-election polls that showed Trump and down-ballot Republicans tracking similarly. The down-ballot Rs held serve on election day while Trump 'collapsed.' Why were the polls able to get the down-ballot races so right while simultaneously getting Trump so wrong?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 12:21 pm to
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Wait until you discover the 2020 monkeyshines and chicanery.


Don't forget horseplay.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
6850 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 12:24 pm to
Most of us made this determination four years ago and never wavered, even though we were called unhinged conspiracy theorists, insurrection supporters, Nazis and worse. This result yesterday is nothing but confirmation.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11124 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:08 pm to
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What the hell took you this long?


I expected better from the process. Naive I guess. I always knew stealing went on going back to JFK in Illinois 1960, but thought with digital transparency that would be reduced.

I also didn't want to be a conspiracy guy. I am rethinking it. Trumps first initiative is a 2020 election commission.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21562 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:15 pm to
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Same here. Not a conspiracy nut & simply dismissed people that are.


Most people get to this point and stop, because you have to admit at least 1 of 2 things:

1. You were wrong
2. They were not nuts....

If you can accept #2, you will wonder what else you dismissed that you should not have
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
39597 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:20 pm to
I'm confused at how this confirms 2020 election fraud?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21562 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:27 pm to
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Maybe.


Not maybe, it happened.

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Seriously, telling old people NOT to vote remotely was catastrophically stupid.


When did he say that?

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"All of the things that are happening with votes by mail, I am not going to say which party does it, but thousands of votes are gathered and they are coming and they are dumped in a location and then all of a sudden you lose elections that you think you are going to win." – April 8, 2020, coronavirus press briefing

Trump said that in response to a reporter’s question about his opposition to voting by mail. Trump also said, "If you're a senior citizen and if you're somebody that needs (mail-in voting), I'm all for it."


You are the one with the false narrative, which you used to frame the "fact" that all mail in votes had to have gone for Joe, and thus justified the ballot dumps going one way.

So now we have people calling him a hypocrite, because he encouraged voting remotely...but he got less votes.
Posted by ThibodauxBengal
Member since Apr 2006
373 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:30 pm to
2016: Trump 63M Clinton 66M
2020: Trump 74M Biden 81M
2024: Trump 71M Harris 66M


What I find interesting, and I haven’t seen anyone comment on it: I was under the impression the Trump turn out in 2024 was spectacular. But yet he’s somehow received fewer votes than 2020?

Even with some remaining votes out there I thought it would be way above 2020, not below or around the same. How do we explain that?
Posted by MattA
Member since Nov 2019
1910 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:32 pm to
With a lot of y’all. Always thought some BS was going on but never went much further than that. After seeing the numbers last night 2020 was a complete sham. Absolute frickery going on.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21562 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:35 pm to
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I'm confused at how this confirms 2020 election fraud?


It doesn't confirm anything. But not sure why you are confused, hav you not been paying attention for 4 years? The dems got a one-time spike in voting of about 25%. That's what you call an outlier, which was confirmed last night.

An honest and curious person without an agenda would wonder what the hell happened to all of those votes, or more precisely, where did they come from in the first place? And a partisan person would have an incentive to understand how to encourage or discourage those reasons.

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