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re: To those of you who continue to support Putin in this European conflict...

Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by Born2rock
Member since Oct 2022
1145 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:32 pm to
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I don't think there's a lot of support for Putin.



….and yet, today Putin endorsed Trump?
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3874 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:46 pm to
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We're not just sending pallets of Benjamins to Kiev like Obama sent to Tehran in spite of what the Willfully Stupid Club members on here think.


Depends on your definition of "Benjamins" I suppose. At this point a crapload of US taxpayer dollars have gone to UKR. The term pallets could probably suffice but is not defined in this case. All in all it a crapload of US taxpayer money has been sent to UKR. Yes, despite your definition of 'pallets', enough US taxpayer money has been expended to UKR to account for at least one pallet by now.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13246 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:48 pm to
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Putin is a ruthless, paranoid, megalomaniac murderer. And he is not going to stop with Ukraine.


Democrats have lost their mind.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9927 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:49 pm to
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Yeah I'm not really buying this whole "you support Putin if you are tired of seeing DC launder billions of dollars via Ukraine". Sorry.


All that needed to be said. Ditto.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24897 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:53 pm to
And yet a better person than pedo joe.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24023 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

If you continue to promote his propaganda it means you're either willfully stupid or worse, you're intentionally a part of Putin's misinformation network.


It's the former and not the later.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62082 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:09 pm to
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If you continue to promote his propaganda it means you're either willfully stupid or worse,



Do you not realize that Ukraine has a history of being corrupt as well?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47233 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:09 pm to
Rootin for Putin !!

Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17967 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:14 pm to
Russian,

I respect a lot of what you post. I typically read your OPs because most (if not all) of them usually include good info and insights.

I respect your opinions, and I respect the amount of time you spent in that part of the world.

I have friends who have worked with Russians, and they've always said that (in general) never trust the Russians.

Then you have Ukraine, which historically has sided with whatever side will benefit them. They're in the crossroads between the East and West and in the middle of a lot of conflicts, so in some ways I get it. But because of that, I don't trust Ukraine, either. This is outside of the CIA installation of Zelesnky and the fact that Ukraine has been on the corruption index for decades.

So given all of this, why is it wrong for people to have the position that we should sit back and let them fight it out without interfering?

Most of us who remember the Cold War don't want it starting up again, and if Putin is as much of a madman as you say, doesn't it stand to reason that our intervention could at some point set him off and start up another one?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53736 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:15 pm to
Who is supporting Putin??????
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3349 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:21 pm to
Y’all need to do a better job over at DU with coming up with profile names. Bamabro? Wtf
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Who is supporting Putin??????


According to Mark Levin, If you're not a rabid supporter of fighting a proxy war against Russia, a war that was 100% preventable you're a Putinoid.
Posted by KirbySmartsDentist
Member since Feb 2023
226 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:03 pm to
Lost me with the “Neville Chamberlain” bullshite in the second post. Probably have Bill Kristol, John McCain, and Jonah Goldberg posters in your house.

2003 called
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

quote:I don't think there's a lot of support for Putin.

….and yet, today Putin endorsed Trump?


Putin endorsed Trump today? I did not know that.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
25004 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:44 pm to
how do posts on tigerdroppings stop slavs from dying
Posted by guy4lsu
shreveport
Member since Aug 2004
3226 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:08 pm to
It’s not about supporting Putin. I don like Putin he is an evil thug. I also, don’t want mY tax dollars being laundered back and forth to Ukraine when those in DC won’t stop spending more than the govt takes in. I support the United States of America and I don’t want my tax dollars going to someone else’s war.
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:20 pm to
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Putin is a ruthless, paranoid, megalomaniac murderer. And he is not going to stop with Ukraine.


I suggest you head over and kick Putin's arse. Send us your address and we'll send you a few million dollars to help

Link to volunteer to help the brave Ukrainians in their crusade to rid the world of the evil Ruzzians!
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:22 pm to
You are wrong a lot, so I'm not surprised that you're still a pro war neocon parroting bill Kristol talking points
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 11:51 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139058 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:39 am to
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I worked in Russia for over three years in the late 1990's/early 2000's. But I also worked in Kiev, Lviv and Odessa, Ukraine off and on over 5 years starting in the mid-2000's.

Those experiences gives me some insight into the Russian and Ukrainian ways of thinking, especially what they think about each other.
Some insight, indeed.
quote:

No, NC_, he wasn't provoked. He's been planning on re-subjugating Ukraine and other former Soviet republics ever since he took over the Russian presidency in December, 1999 when Yeltsin resigned four months after appointing Putin Prime Minister in August, 1999.
The interesting thing is, we had an opportunity to deploy far more aggressive economic support and cooperation with Russia as Yeltsin took the reins. We didn't. Instead we did nearly the opposite.

We expanded NATO. Then we engaged NATO (as opposed to the UN) against Russia's traditional Balkan ally, Serbia. Those positions left the Russian body politick yearning to replace Yeltsin. In walked Putin, for many of the reasons you laid out.

With regard to provocation though, it seems there scarcely could be anything more provoking then our interference in Russia's 2011 Duma elections, and our subsequent backing of Ukraine's 2013-4 Euromaidan coup.... unless it was renewed conversation about formally inculcating Ukraine into an anti-Russian nuclear alliance.
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