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re: Tim Sheehy: "Pakistan appears to have won every engagement so far with Chinese technology"
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:20 pm to John Barron
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:20 pm to John Barron
quote:
I just checked the Grok Sources on the India Rafale Jet Information
No you didn't
That's not how it works.
Explainability in AI models is a nightmare, especially LLMs.
The sources it links are only higher hitting ones that have higher cosine similarity to the response, but it's an amalgamation of training data that especially includes X.
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:24 pm to John Barron
India has old European technology and old Russian technology. Yeah they have a few new Rafales and new missiles but they are the export version. That means they need to buy American instead of European. My MIC stocks about to go up.
Not dismissing the Chicoms technology or the threat they pose but I would love to see a JF17 try to take on a modern F15, F16, F18, F22, or F35.
Not dismissing the Chicoms technology or the threat they pose but I would love to see a JF17 try to take on a modern F15, F16, F18, F22, or F35.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:28 pm to John Barron
China is dangerous.
Also India lacks a lot of what makes the US military effective.
Also India lacks a lot of what makes the US military effective.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:29 pm to Narax
quote:
No you didn't
Yes I did. It list the sources they used for the question asked. I have already went over this with you Narax in a different thread. If you continue to play these games I will give you the Owl treatment and ignore you
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:32 pm to Narax
quote:
Explainability in AI models is a nightmare, especially LLMs.
The sources it links are only higher hitting ones that have higher cosine similarity to the response, but it's an amalgamation of training data that especially includes X.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:34 pm to John Barron
Will the Chinese technology last?
Everything I've bought from China has "unplanned" obsolescence or so Amazon tells me.
Everything I've bought from China has "unplanned" obsolescence or so Amazon tells me.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:36 pm to WeeWee
quote:
Yeah they have a few new Rafales
36 is more than a few.
quote:
Not dismissing the Chicoms technology
I could care less about China. My main issue is the poster that called the India Rafale Jets "40 Year old Technology" which is not close to being accurate information. Those Jets were built to the F3R standard which was not available until 2018 and is considered a 4.5 generation Fighter Jet
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:37 pm to John Barron
36 isn't even a wing silly frick.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:38 pm to John Barron
4.5 u silly frick.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:41 pm to John Barron
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If you continue to play these games I will give you the Owl treatment and ignore you
You can't lol.
The LLM is already pre trained based on the latest training session.
Relevant web pages are not sources (they might be one of a thousand sources depending on if they were used in the base set).
They are relevant pages that are very like the response you got.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:42 pm to John Barron
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Yeah they have a few new Rafales
John: Google google google...
quote:
36 is more than a few.
quote:
Not dismissing the Chicoms technology
John: *Grok, please tell me about the India Rafale Jets. Thank You."
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I could care less about China. My main issue is the poster that called the India Rafale Jets "40 Year old Technology" which is not close to being accurate information. Those Jets were built to the F3R standard which was not available until 2018 and is considered a 4.5 generation Fighter Jet
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:43 pm to MemphisGuy
Guy is a fricking clown act.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yup, Rodney was onto something, literally cos(a) is what fundamentally drives the choice of the next word in all the major LLMs.
Figuring out what combination of data created that minimum cosine is a mess.
ETA
Of course I post something factual and John gives it 2 down votes with 2 of his accounts because he thinks a little red thing is more important than factual information.
Figuring out what combination of data created that minimum cosine is a mess.
ETA
Of course I post something factual and John gives it 2 down votes with 2 of his accounts because he thinks a little red thing is more important than factual information.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 6:22 am
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:45 pm to John Barron
quote:
Those Jets were built to the F3R standard which was not available until 2018 and is considered a 4.5 generation Fighter Jet
I don’t understand why they are upset about you posting this. It’s easily verifiable.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:45 pm to WeeWee
quote:
Not dismissing the Chicoms technology or the threat they pose but I would love to see a JF17 try to take on a modern F15, F16, F18, F22, or F35.
The problem is they can produce 10 JF-17’s for price of just one of ours.
The sherman tank was far inferior to the german panzer/tiger tanks. We just had 3 of them for every one of theirs.
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:46 pm to John Barron
They went up against zero US hardware. I can assure you that it would have turned out differently even with our 4th generation fighters
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:46 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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I don’t understand why they are upset about you posting this. It’s easily verifiable.
It's a modified FR3 baseline.
It's more that he blindly pastes stuff and doesn't care one bit how correct it is.
He's just going to fight you tooth and nail to say he was right.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:46 pm to thebigmuffaletta
4.5 is a game changer!
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:48 pm to The Baker
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The problem is they can produce 10 JF-17’s for price of just one of ours.
Someone can correct me, but with the tech in modern war aviation, that volume-based advantage is irrelevant. Those 10 would be taken out before they even knew an F22 or F35 was a threat.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:50 pm to John Barron
India isn't deploying any modern US air superiority technology. None.
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