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re: Tim Sheehy: "Pakistan appears to have won every engagement so far with Chinese technology"

Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:45 pm to
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ETA: Did you use ChatGPT or Grok or another AI for your post?

Of course he did
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13638 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:45 pm to
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You are an idiot.


That's an understatement
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:47 pm to
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Of course he did


It's one of his two major sources of content. Grok and Eric Daugherty. Take those two sources away and he'd have 75% less content posted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465472 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:48 pm to
When I see him Grok'ing out without giving credit (implying it's his comments), I sometimes think about him trying to answer questions in person and it never fails to make me chuckle internally.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:55 pm to
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When I see him Grok'ing out without giving credit (implying it's his comments), 


Another lie from SFP. I put quotes around any information that is sourced including Grok. I also provide a link like I did for the article but their is no links for Grok. How you holding up after you said it was the customers fault for getting berated by the Frontier Agent that got fired for her conduct.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21098 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:58 pm to
When are you dumb fricks going to realize that things will go nuclear and none of us will survive.

Good riddance to all the fricking sniveling.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5855 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:58 pm to
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When I see him Grok'ing out without giving credit (implying it's his comments), I sometimes think about him trying to answer questions in person and it never fails to make me chuckle internally.


What kills me is that LLMs rely on data.

When data is not available, e.g. It's classified, complex, or unreleased.

LLMs will just repeat back the same guesswork that online commentators do.

If someone knew how effective the Rafael was they would be in the French Military. If someone knew how effective the Chinese plane was they would be in the Chinese military.

The data just isn't out there for an LLM to provide anything more than a collage of opinions.

So what kills me is the blind faith that LLMs are right, when they have no chance to be right on a specific topic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465472 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:58 pm to
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I put quotes around any information that is sourced including Grok. I also provide a link like I did for the article but their is no links for Grok

And yet, no reference to Grok

quote:

How you holding up after you said it was the customers fault for getting berated by the Frontier Agent that got fired for her conduct.

It was his fault. They were all in the wrong, as I said.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465472 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:59 pm to
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What kills me is that LLMs rely on data.

When data is not available, e.g. It's classified, complex, or unreleased.

LLMs will just repeat back the same guesswork that online commentators do.

If someone knew how effective the Rafael was they would be in the French Military. If someone knew how effective the Chinese plane was they would be in the Chinese military.

The data just isn't out there for an LLM to provide anything more than a collage of opinions.

So what kills me is the blind faith that LLMs are right, when they have no chance to be right on a specific topic.

Also their datasets will lead to bias. If you're LLM is relying on datasets that will be more pro-China (like X), you'll get more pro-China responses from that LLM.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3289 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:00 pm to
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All the more reason to keep them as an ally rather than making an enemy out of them.


Allies with the #2 largest economy & #2 largest population, way to go out on a limb there, Captain obvious.

China is the #1 thing preventing us from being allies with China. They've made an enemy of us 10x over in the last 50 years. We've raised them up and they've spat in our faces. Unfortunately, China's ego has made for the Cold War of the 21st century
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38480 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:02 pm to
I read where India destroyed 12 Pakistan bases.

Who won?
Posted by John Barron
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17101 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:04 pm to
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It was his fault.


Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19380 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:07 pm to
Does the military industrial complex donate money to Tim Sheehy? My guess would be yes along with many other politicians. I’m fine with having a strong military though just not being a slave to these companies.
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 8:08 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13638 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:09 pm to
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If you're LLM is relying on datasets that will be more pro-China (like X), you'll get more pro-China responses from that LLM.


Hence JB's constant fapping over any and everything China.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465472 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:12 pm to
And reliance on Grok to do so, correct.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15431 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:15 pm to
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I’ll never understand why some people here refuse to comprehend that China is a huge fricking threat. Such arrogance.


These same people have Ukraine flags in their profile pictures and think Muh Russia is the greatest threat.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
84068 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:15 pm to
What if I told you I flew over Pakistan on my way to Afghanistan multiple times on combat missions and there wasn't a fricking thing they could or would do about it.
Grok blowing bitch
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:16 pm to
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is relying on datasets that will be more pro-China (like X), 




I just checked the Grok Sources on the India Rafale Jet Information


Wikipedia (used twice)
NavalNews
Reuters (used twice)
Dassault Aviation
Washington Post
FlightGlobal
TWZ.com

Which one of the above sources is Pro China
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46047 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:18 pm to
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I’ll never understand why some people here refuse to comprehend that China is a huge fricking threat. Such arrogance.


It's not arrogance. It's one or both of the following:

1) Ignorance - they only know what conventional media tells them, and conventional media tells them that Russia is the world's #1 threat.

2) TDS - Ever since the phony narrative of Trump/Russia collusion was fabricated by the Hillary Clinton campaign, people who hate Trump have chosen to wrongly focus on Russia as being a bigger threat than China. Whether they really believe it or not.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14297 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:19 pm to
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Wow. Senator @TimSheehyMT: "Pakistan appears to have won every engagement so far with Chinese technology against the largely Western technology used by India. That’s not good for us.”


This is some seriously stupid shite. MIC shill status [confirmed] not confirmed
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