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Thoughts on high school education requirements
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:17 am
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:17 am
I was thinking the other day about what are some of the most important life skills that anyone could have.
I would rank the following pretty high
1. Managing personal finances
2. Having a good education about nutrition
I don't think many would argue that too many people are severely lacking in both departments. Even doctors receive very little in the way of nutritional education.
These are issues that literally affect everyone yet very little time is spent on either of these at the high school level.
And there are of course ripple effects. How many couples get divorced over disputes about personal finances? There are varying statistics on the matter but I've seen figures north of 50% of all divorces cite money as a driving factor. How many of these could be avoided if young adults were better equipped to handle personal finances?
Healthcare is sort of self explanatory. We spend more on healthcare than anyone and it is in large part due to a society that doesn't eat healthy. Then there are additional factors like lost production in the work force due to people being unhealthy and the like that might be more difficult to capture.
What say you? Should we place more emphasis on these areas in high school? I think the rewards could be big for the future.
I would rank the following pretty high
1. Managing personal finances
2. Having a good education about nutrition
I don't think many would argue that too many people are severely lacking in both departments. Even doctors receive very little in the way of nutritional education.
These are issues that literally affect everyone yet very little time is spent on either of these at the high school level.
And there are of course ripple effects. How many couples get divorced over disputes about personal finances? There are varying statistics on the matter but I've seen figures north of 50% of all divorces cite money as a driving factor. How many of these could be avoided if young adults were better equipped to handle personal finances?
Healthcare is sort of self explanatory. We spend more on healthcare than anyone and it is in large part due to a society that doesn't eat healthy. Then there are additional factors like lost production in the work force due to people being unhealthy and the like that might be more difficult to capture.
What say you? Should we place more emphasis on these areas in high school? I think the rewards could be big for the future.
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:20 am to Powerman
I agree in theory but the execution of it will be shite. For my business/finance class in high school we had a dumb football coach who completely fricked up explanations of credit, investing, etc. His idea of a safe financial future was just having a savings account.
Maybe the way around that would be to find professionals who would be willing to come in and teach finance or nutrition one or two days a week to high school seniors.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 9:21 am
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:20 am to Powerman
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2. Having a good education about nutrition
I'll sit back and watch the argument splay out with this one.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:20 am to Powerman
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What say you? Should we place more emphasis on these areas in high school?
Yes.
But too many teachers are idiots. They could never teach such things. They can't even teach the current curriculum with any sort of professionalism.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:21 am to Powerman
I don't have time to get into this one right now but this is a pet subject for me so I will be coming back to it later today
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:21 am to Junky
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I'll sit back and watch the argument splay out with this one.
No doubt
It might be "too soon" to have mandatory nutritional education because who knows what would actually be taught. But I do think it would be good if we could at least generate interest in the topic.
One thing is for sure...people are pretty testy about their fad diets.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:22 am to NIH
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I agree in theory but the execution of it will be shite. For my business/finance class in high school we had a dumb football coach who completely fricked up explanations of credit, investing, etc.
Same thing for health. Not everyone needs algebra. Hell, most people don't. Everyone needs personal finance.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:22 am to ShortyRob
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I don't have time to get into this one right now but this is a pet subject for me so I will be coming back to it later today
I'll be interested since personal finance seems to be an area of your expertise.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:23 am to Powerman
I took both Health and Nutrition and Economics classes in HS. Both were very poorly taught though, as were most of the topics in HS.
The fact is, you can try to force this all you want in schools, without a home life to back it up, it isn't going to resonate.
The fact is, you can try to force this all you want in schools, without a home life to back it up, it isn't going to resonate.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:23 am to Powerman
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mandatory nutritional education because who knows what would actually be taught.
Keep it simple, teach that sugar and processed/boxed foods are harmful. You don't have to "teach" Keto or the Caveman diet, just explain the basics. Ie. don't buy cookies, soda, and pringles and instead shop in the produce and meat sections.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:24 am to Powerman
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2. Having a good education about nutrition
One semester of Health was required at my HS. All that you needed to know about nutrition (at the time) was taught during that time. End of the day, it's about choice after that.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:28 am to indianswim
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All that you needed to know about nutrition (at the time) was taught during that time.
This is the problem. The food pyramid was created to subsidize American farmers. The average American waistline suffered.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:36 am to indianswim
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One semester of Health was required at my HS. All that you needed to know about nutrition (at the time) was taught during that time. End of the day, it's about choice after that.
It's been a while but I seem to recall health being taught by our football coach and it was a joke of a class
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:40 am to Powerman
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2. Having a good education about nutrition
I get where you are coming from with this, but the basics are entirely too simple and common sense to be a primary focus, and when you step away from that you get into topics that seem to go into a revolution every 10 years or so.
EAT THIS ITS GOOD FOR YOU!
OH shite, DONT! IT’LL KILL YOU!
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:43 am to Powerman
Personal finance ... Absolutely.
Nutrition.... No. It's been taught since at least kindergarten with the food groups. Plus there are only so many hours in the day to teach.
Nutrition.... No. It's been taught since at least kindergarten with the food groups. Plus there are only so many hours in the day to teach.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:49 am to PaperTiger
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Nutrition.... No. It's been taught since at least kindergarten with the food groups. Plus there are only so many hours in the day to teach.
So knowing what food groups are pretty much covers it?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:52 am to Powerman
Well let’s turn the question around.
Inadequacy of finance topics is a given.
But what precisely are the topics you feel that need to be covered in nutrition that aren’t?
Inadequacy of finance topics is a given.
But what precisely are the topics you feel that need to be covered in nutrition that aren’t?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:53 am to Powerman
Elective home-ec and woodworking classes should be replaced by a mandatory business class. At least teach the kids the basic lingo of business so they aren't totally inept at it when mom and dad are no longer available in trying to explain it to them - if the parents understand it themselves.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:54 am to Powerman
First off, as someone who has worked in finance my entire career, most people, even college educated people, don't know shite about finance. They all think they do, and most wouldn't care if you explained it to them. People today feel they are entitled, and their finances don't matter, only what they deserve to have in their minds. Trying to teach personal finance to young adults would be about as effective as telling athletes the danger of CTE and PED's. They don't care, and it won't affect them would be their mindset.
Nutrition is the same way. People know what's healthy and what's not for the most part. They don't care. They are more concerned about their immediate satisfaction. It's not a lack of education about nutrition, but people are free to eat what they want, and most are going to choose a pizza over a salad 9 times out of 10.
Nutrition is the same way. People know what's healthy and what's not for the most part. They don't care. They are more concerned about their immediate satisfaction. It's not a lack of education about nutrition, but people are free to eat what they want, and most are going to choose a pizza over a salad 9 times out of 10.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:56 am to Volvagia
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But what precisely are the topics you feel that need to be covered in nutrition that aren’t?
The answer to that question should probably come from a professional. Not me.
I don't know that it needs to be taught as a stand alone course. Perhaps it could be incorporated into human biology courses.
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