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Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:57 am to KingSlayer
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First off, as someone who has worked in finance my entire career, most people, even college educated people, don't know shite about finance. They all think they do, and most wouldn't care if you explained it to them. People today feel they are entitled, and their finances don't matter, only what they deserve to have in their minds. Trying to teach personal finance to young adults would be about as effective as telling athletes the danger of CTE and PED's. They don't care, and it won't affect them would be their mindset.
Nutrition is the same way. People know what's healthy and what's not for the most part. They don't care. They are more concerned about their immediate satisfaction. It's not a lack of education about nutrition, but people are free to eat what they want, and most are going to choose a pizza over a salad 9 times out of 10.
Can't say that I disagree about that. In both cases it boils down to patience and discipline IMO. And perhaps that is the theme that should be stressed in both areas.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:59 am to Powerman
Been a long time since I was in school... but I seem to remember that a subject on health was taught pretty much every year through like 9th grade. In 9th grade was the "big" health class.
Now, my senior year, I had already taken calculus and 5th year math so I decided to skate and took "Advanced Consumer Math". It was one of the best subjects that I took in high school - covered everything from balancing check books, simple interest, credit cards, and even basic investing.
Now, my senior year, I had already taken calculus and 5th year math so I decided to skate and took "Advanced Consumer Math". It was one of the best subjects that I took in high school - covered everything from balancing check books, simple interest, credit cards, and even basic investing.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:01 am to Powerman
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. Managing personal finances
A semester of free enterprise became mandatory after Carter's fiasco of a presidency. If they don't include personal finance in that I don't see why not.
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Having a good education about nutrition
Jamie Oliver spent months in Kentucky trying to retrain school kids. It was a total failure. Very depressing.
His conclusion was that kids follow the eating habits of their parents. So bad habits became generational. The parents knew that they were shortening their child's life expectancy by 10 years. They didn't care.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:03 am to Powerman
Personal Finance should absolutely be taught. Think about all of the useless stuff you learned in school that wasn’t practical instead of learning about how to build/maintain your credit score.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:05 am to Junky
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2. Having a good education about nutrition
I'll sit back and watch the argument splay out with this one.
keto, brah
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:06 am to Powerman
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1. Managing personal finances
CFBRules created an entire high school lesson plan for this, with resource materials and everything. It was extremely well done and had alot of potential for real world use.
I wonder if he ever tried to sell it.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:10 am to KingSlayer
It blows my mind how many college educated, successful people don’t really understand basic principles of compound interest or inflation. Understanding basic finance (mortgages, interest, investments, credit cards, etc.) is one of the most important things for people to know, however it’s completely glossed over by almost everyone.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:12 am to Powerman
There was a football coach who taught drivers ed and personal fitness at my school. He always said he taught the 2 most important classes at the school.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:13 am to starsandstripes
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Yes. But too many teachers are idiots. They could never teach such things. They can't even teach the current curriculum with any sort of professionalism.
In defense of some of the "good" teachers out there, even if you did teach these subjects, many of the students today could really care less. They are looking for 15 min of fame on social media.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:27 am to Powerman
Don’t underestimate the ability of the government to frick up things in their attempts to try and teach this.
Eating habits of entire generations got fricked up because the government believed that fat was the source of obesity issues and demonized it.
Turns out the problem was an over abundance of carbs which got stored as fats when they weren’t burned off at the time of consumption.
That’s not the only way they fricked up nutrition in this country but it’s a good example of how using mistaken information has cause long term issues.
Eating habits of entire generations got fricked up because the government believed that fat was the source of obesity issues and demonized it.
Turns out the problem was an over abundance of carbs which got stored as fats when they weren’t burned off at the time of consumption.
That’s not the only way they fricked up nutrition in this country but it’s a good example of how using mistaken information has cause long term issues.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:30 am to Ingloriousbastard
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It blows my mind how many college educated, successful people don’t really understand basic principles of compound interest or inflation. Understanding basic finance (mortgages, interest, investments, credit cards, etc.) is one of the most important things for people to know, however it’s completely glossed over by almost everyone.
Agree completely. It is astounding how many have no basic idea of how a mortgage loan actually works given the fact it's probably their largest debt and so many people have them. What's even worse is that they actually believe they know everything about how it works, so you can't tell them anything.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:39 am to Powerman
3. Loading the dishwasher properly.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:42 am to KingSlayer
Trying to teach kids about delayed gratification won't be successful if their parents don't ingrain that in their little brains themselves at home. For either subject. I have a lot to say about teaching finance but it would only help a few students more than likely.
It would be funny to have kids running home and complaining that their finance teacher told them it was dumb to pull out $150K in debt to follow their dreams of being an artist
It would be funny to have kids running home and complaining that their finance teacher told them it was dumb to pull out $150K in debt to follow their dreams of being an artist
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:47 am to Powerman
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What say you? Should we place more emphasis on these areas in high school? I think the rewards could be big for the future.
Personal finance yes! Teach kids how to balance a checking account, and calculate the cost of financing something, plus the secondary impact of buying things (like the cost of insurance/maintenance on that camaro you bought).
As for nutrition, I think that is too variable. Maybe tell the kids to eat vegetables. But I don't think the feds know exactly what to eat/not eat.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:53 am to Tbonepatron
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3. Loading the dishwasher properly.
Won't work. I tried training my wife for years and then gave up and told her to just leave the dishes in the sink.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:57 am to wutangfinancial
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Trying to teach kids about delayed gratification won't be successful if their parents don't ingrain that in their little brains themselves at home.
True. My son (now 40) has been very wise with money. He explained how he learned young to see the difference between a 'need' and a 'want.'
Me: 'I don't remember that conversation with you.'
Him: 'No conversation. I just watched you.'
If there is one tip I could give to prospective young parents it would be...
'What you say to your kids is not as important as what they see you do.'
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:02 am to Zach
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Won't work. I tried training my wife for years and then gave up and told her to just leave the dishes in the sink.
I'd like to know what loading the dishwasher properly entails. I've seen a couple different methods.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:02 am to FairhopeTider
I have been personally active in trying to get the state of Mississippi to mandate Personal Finance for graduation.
We have too many people with ties to the payday loan industry in our legislature to even get it out of committee. It's sickening.
We have too many people with ties to the payday loan industry in our legislature to even get it out of committee. It's sickening.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:03 am to brian_wilson
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But I don't think the feds know exactly what to eat/not eat.
And even if they did we can't trust them to be honest.
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