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Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:05 am to Powerman
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I'd like to know what loading the dishwasher properly entails. I've seen a couple different methods.
It isn't that hard if you are good at tetris. It is about fitting the most dishes in, without covering up the washing mechanisms. Those vary per dishwasher, so it does require a bit of expertise on the subject.
I used to load the dishwasher over the wife. She was terrible at, and still is. But I decided my hatred of doing anything with the dishwasher trumps my desire to have the most dishes washed per cycle.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:07 am to Powerman
This is a very thoughtful topic and a great post. I agree with you completely. Unfortunately, standardized testing, even at the high school level, limits these kinds of issues from being discussed, much less woven into curriculum.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:18 am to Powerman
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And even if they did we can't trust them to be honest.
I think we could trust them to be honest about it. I just don't think they know good nutrition. Hell, I am a bit of a nutrition geek and I can't figure out what I should be eating (other than lots of vegetables).
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:30 am to NIH
Teachers' unions + ignorant arse parents = a system that can't be fixed.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:34 am to SCLibertarian
My kids are in public school in middle TN and are required to take health and personal finance. The personal finance class was pretty basic but they did cover budgeting, credit, borrowing/interest, balancing a check book and filing a tax return. They also had a section on "want" versus "need". Economics is also required and is taught as a separate class.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 12:42 pm to anc
There should be a personal finance class and the elements of this class should also be reinforced in the math courses. Taxes, mortgage and loans, credit, IRA, HSA, stock market concepts, how to build a budget and how much basic living expenses cost, etc.
What are some of the steps you have taken? Genuinely curious.
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I have been personally active in trying to get the state of Mississippi to mandate Personal Finance for graduation.
We have too many people with ties to the payday loan industry in our legislature to even get it out of committee. It's sickening.
What are some of the steps you have taken? Genuinely curious.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 12:44 pm to Powerman
Pretty much. I'd be pissed to learn that a requirement of TOPS is food nutrition.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 12:46 pm to Powerman
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1. Managing personal finances
2. Having a good education about nutrition
What's really amazing is that we have an ELECTIVE called "Home Economics" that teaches neither of these things.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:27 pm to brian_wilson
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It isn't that hard if you are good at tetris. It is about fitting the most dishes in, without covering up the washing mechanisms. Those vary per dishwasher, so it does require a bit of expertise on the subject.
I used to load the dishwasher over the wife. She was terrible at, and still is. But I decided my hatred of doing anything with the dishwasher trumps my desire to have the most dishes washed per cycle.
Yeah the dishes I get
I've seen some dispute over the proper way to load utensils however
Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:28 pm to PaperTiger
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Pretty much. I'd be pissed to learn that a requirement of TOPS is food nutrition.
When I was in high school the eligibility for TOPS was simply don't be a complete dumb arse
I'm not sure what the requirements are now but you didn't need to be anyone exceptional in my day
Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:31 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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What's really amazing is that we have an ELECTIVE called "Home Economics" that teaches neither of these things.
I think high school gets too concerned with college prep and doesn't really think about life prep
I'd argue the latter is more important than the former
Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:32 pm to KingSlayer
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They don't care. They are more concerned about their immediate satisfaction
This. It's why every "grocery" store (at least in my area) has the junk food in the most prominent spots, especially at their entrances. Same with finances. Gimme that shiny new car or newest phone and let me go more into debt. I know too many people like this. It's all about gimme gimme & showing off, IMO. The same people will complain about their (electric, water) bills being so high.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:35 pm to papagena
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Gimme that shiny new car or newest phone and let me go more into debt.
I'm still amazed at how frequently people with little disposable income update their phones
I don't mind spending a little more on a phone because I usually keep them for a while and I get the factory unlocked ones that allow me to pay less for service
Posted on 4/17/18 at 1:47 pm to Powerman
From BR business report in December: LINK
LA gets "D" grade teaching personal finance to HS students
Info and the rest of the states: LINK
LA gets "D" grade teaching personal finance to HS students
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Louisiana is lagging when it comes to teaching personal finance to high school students, according to a new report card on the efforts of states to improve financial literacy among teenagers. The state earned a D grade in the latest “Report Card on State Efforts to Improve Financial Literacy in High Schools,” down from a B when the report was last released in 2015. The report card is prepared by the Champlain College’s Center for Financial Literacy, which grades all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
Louisiana saw its grade drop largely due to its decision to drop a statewide requirement that all students be taught personal finance, the center says. “Louisiana is the only state since the Great Recession and financial crisis to materially reduce personal finance education standards in high school,” John Pelletier, Champlain College Center for Financial Literacy director, says in a statement. “In the past, all students were required to take a half-year civics course that included an estimated 7.5 hours of personal finance instruction. Now the state requires that personal finance be offered as part of another existing course of study.” The state grades in the report are also based on a review of financial literacy legislation summaries maintained by the National Conference of State Legislatures for the last eight years. Nationwide, just three other states received a D grade: Montana, Vermont and Wyoming. Only five states earned an A, while 10 states and the District of Columbia earned an F.
Info and the rest of the states: LINK
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:53 pm to NIH
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Maybe the way around that would be to find professionals who would be willing to come in and teach finance or nutrition one or two days a week to high school seniors.
I can't think of two more needed and yet neglected aspects of the current high school education curriculum.
And bring in outside presenters is the way to go. Get people to come in who excel on the particular topic.
Also, coming in a couple of times a week makes the course seem to be more important, and maybe less boring.
The D.A.R.E. program was very successful, at least from my perspective, seeing its influence on my children.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 3:39 pm to Powerman
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I would rank the following pretty high
1. Managing personal finances
2. Having a good education about nutrition
I just don't get why people keep dreaming up more shite to teach kids in school, when they're not learning what they're being taught now:
Math (Algebra I&II, Geometry)
English (Reading above 6th grade, should be able to read a book, and write a coherent paper on what they read)
Science (Biology/Chemistry/Physics at LEAST A basic understanding of the Scientific Method)
Once they can do that, I would include:
Typing/computer science
Fine Arts (Music, Drama, Art, etc...)
Foreign Language
Trade/skill
Perhaps the finance cold be a Math unit, and nutrition could be a Biology unit.
But first math, reading and writing.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 3:52 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
There's no reason that you can't overlap this info too.
Reading/Writing: make the students read a basic finance book, apply it to a real life scenario, and write a paper on it
ISDS: create a budget with Excel functions and perform other finance functions
Math: apply the subject to real life financial scenarios
Reading/Writing: make the students read a basic finance book, apply it to a real life scenario, and write a paper on it
ISDS: create a budget with Excel functions and perform other finance functions
Math: apply the subject to real life financial scenarios
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:38 pm to Powerman
Don't you realize these are the two sectors that make the most money in this country because of ignorance and exploitation?
Good luck ever changing that.
Good luck ever changing that.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:50 pm to Powerman
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I think high school gets too concerned with college prep and doesn't really think about life prep
Depends on the school. If you're a BR public school and less than 50% of your student body goes to college, you're probably right.
If you're an elite private/magnet school with 99% of your student body going to college, then college prep is probably the way to go.
ETA: I don't really have time to get into this now, but if we really want to improve education, we have to start at its very core with the antiquated Prussian model and standardized curriculum.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 4:54 pm
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