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re: This whole thing reeks of the WMD hoax in Iraq
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:23 pm to tigerfan24736
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:23 pm to tigerfan24736
quote:Yup, people are just following incentives, including world leaders and nations, and that’s how you predict how they act. I don’t blame Iran for responding. Israel, though, there’s no way they would have done this without advanced knowledge of US support to hide behind.
I 100% agree with this
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 11:23 pm
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:24 pm to GeauxBurrow312
Agreed. American isolationism just isn’t realistically feasible anymore. And yea maybe our allies stepping up is the way forward - so we don’t have to do the heavy lifting. And ur right Israel taking initiative doing this is good , they’re carrying weight - it just sucks bc Iran may retaliate against us for their actions. Unavoidable consequence of allies though I guess.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:24 pm to VooDude
Have you seen any of trumps posts?
He’s been all but bragging that he led Iran into the trap because they wouldn’t make a deal
He’s been all but bragging that he led Iran into the trap because they wouldn’t make a deal
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:25 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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all but bragging
In other words, your interpretation.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:25 pm to tigerfan24736
I pray they don’t strike our serviceman - probably 90% of this board does not want them to be there, but they are and they are just doing what Uncle Sam told them to do
If Iran hits them we are obligated to go tooth for tooth
If Iran hits them we are obligated to go tooth for tooth
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:26 pm to davyjones
How do you interpret Trump saying it was day 61 and he gave them 60 days? Or how he interrupted the interviewer to tell them that he knew well in advance and it wasn’t just a heads up?
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:28 pm to GeauxBurrow312
How many more days after the publicly specified amount of time did they need to give them after the final day?
And we need everyone to know that we were aware ahead of time. Either we’re allies or we’re not. Since we are, the world needs to know we’re on the same wavelength.
And we need everyone to know that we were aware ahead of time. Either we’re allies or we’re not. Since we are, the world needs to know we’re on the same wavelength.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:29 pm to davyjones
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Their time limit was up, Trump kept bibi on a leash and let him loose when Iran didn’t take it seriously
Their time limit was up, Trump kept bibi on a leash and let him loose when Iran didn’t take it seriously
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:45 pm to Powerman
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So they're better than a jihadist state and a terrorist group
Pretty low bar to clear there
That is right. The terrorist have set the bar very very low. First time you have ever been right.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:21 am to tigerfan24736
And why would they need a hoax? They have a million other reasons to bow Iran to kingdom come. Your premise is ridiculous.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:35 am to Goforit
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And why would they need a hoax?
Because they would be in violation of international law if they can't prove it was necessary for their defense for starters.
But Israel doesn't give a shite about international law anyway so maybe that's not a good point
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:41 am to tigerfan24736
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The U.S should be seeking peaceful resolution.
Yeah, and in the 1940s you'd have been arguing for a peaceful resolution with Hitler. Pure fricking stupidity. Hamas needs to be wiped off the planet, and I don't give a shite how Israel does it. We killed a lot of German civilians in WW2. Ever hear of the bombing of Dresden? Israel is in a fricking war.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 1:42 am
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:44 am to BamaGradinTn
Israel is always in a war. And I don't see that changing any time soon.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:05 am to tigerfan24736
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Same playbook. Israel has been claiming Iran is “close to nuclear weapons” for 20+ years. Utter shite.
You’re a retard for thinking they aren’t trying to acquire a nuke and actively enriching uranium
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:31 am to tigerfan24736
I hope I’m wrong and this all fizzles out soon. Even flirting with another endless war—especially one that’s really just a continuation of the same disaster Trump once rightly condemned Bush for starting—would be catastrophic.
But the CIA seems desperate to drag Trump into it.
Israel may not officially run the CIA, but the people who fund it are effectively owned. Nearly every member of Congress has an AIPAC leash, and that influence reaches deep into our so-called intelligence agencies.
And once again, people are falling for the same playbook.
It’s depressing.
Downvote if you want—but this is the same guy who correctly stood on stage and called out George W. Bush for invading Iraq based on lies. Now he’s being boxed into making the same mistake—although with Bush, it wasn’t a mistake at all. He wanted that war. He wanted exactly what we now seem to be on the brink of doing again.
Next comes the surveillance push. COVID was the test run. They didn’t get it all then—but war? That’s always been the shortcut to locking down the rest. And this time, they think Trump can be the vehicle.
I feel for the kids who sign up. I enlisted in 2002 out of patriotism—patriotism I now realize was built on lies.
Now another generation is about to fall for the same illusion—for the same reasons.
But the CIA seems desperate to drag Trump into it.
Israel may not officially run the CIA, but the people who fund it are effectively owned. Nearly every member of Congress has an AIPAC leash, and that influence reaches deep into our so-called intelligence agencies.
And once again, people are falling for the same playbook.
It’s depressing.
Downvote if you want—but this is the same guy who correctly stood on stage and called out George W. Bush for invading Iraq based on lies. Now he’s being boxed into making the same mistake—although with Bush, it wasn’t a mistake at all. He wanted that war. He wanted exactly what we now seem to be on the brink of doing again.
Next comes the surveillance push. COVID was the test run. They didn’t get it all then—but war? That’s always been the shortcut to locking down the rest. And this time, they think Trump can be the vehicle.
I feel for the kids who sign up. I enlisted in 2002 out of patriotism—patriotism I now realize was built on lies.
Now another generation is about to fall for the same illusion—for the same reasons.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:33 am to tigerfan24736
Don't bother. This whole board is 100% Israel first and on board with another Iraq.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:38 am to Hayekian serf
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Now another generation is about to fall for the same illusion—for the same reasons.
It's really is depressing. I just watched that piece by Tucker from a few days ago and his guest went into detail on how our foreign policy since the end of the Cold War has been to benefit Israel and Bibi. Iraq, Libya, Syria all of it was Israels list. And we are about to do it again. They want war with Iran and the US will do all the dirty work
Ill expect another 10 trillion of debt and probably 25k+ American deaths. Iran is twice the size of Iraq, more rugged terrain and has more people and a large ground force. It will be a quagmire.
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This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 2:39 am
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:41 am to GeauxBurrow312
Lol. It's hilarious how some of you simps believe this crock of shite.
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Israel is arguably the best ally the US has. They vote our way in the UN every time, they share intelligence. They don’t ask us to fight their battles for them (they just ask for $ like everyone does. Which needs to end)
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:00 am to tigerfan24736
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:00 am to theballguy
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theballguy
Bini did the same sit in 02. Guy is a sociopath and you guys are falling for his lies again.
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