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This is probably a dumb question, but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?

Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by DolphinDaddy
Miami, Fl.
Member since Apr 2022
1155 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:24 am
Didn’t we help defeat Hitler (nazi) under a conservative President.

So why is Neo Nazism grouped with conservatives?

Edit: was looking at wrong President, I been out of school for a long time, but I’m genuinely curious on all of this.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 10:48 am
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:25 am to
Because they wanted to demonize nazism and distract from the murderous outcome of communism.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:25 am to
The meme is that "fascism" is always right wing, which is if course absurd.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27862 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:26 am to
Communist face a burning desire to depict fascism as the right wing equivalent of their evils. In truth the right side of a political spectrum if that’s how you choose to visualize it would be anarchy.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41415 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Didn’t we help defeat Hitler (nazi) under a conservative President?


Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7043 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:27 am to
Simple. Just look at it from the lefts' perspective. Nazi = bad. Right = Bad. Bad = Bad. Nazi = Right.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:28 am to
quote:

This is probably a dumb question, but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?
Because people are generally simpletons, and attempt to define world politics based upon American domestic distinctions. Also because simpletons attempt to define all political positions based upon a simplistic, one dimensional spectrum.

On a Nolan chart, Nazis are authoritarian, but basically Centrist on the left/right axis



I will let someone else handle the assertion that FDR was conservative.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 10:37 am
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:28 am to
quote:

The meme is that "fascism" is always right wing, which is if course absurd.

Especially given that Mussolini and Hitler were both leftists
Posted by DolphinDaddy
Miami, Fl.
Member since Apr 2022
1155 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:29 am to
FDR was conservative was he not?

I am not knowledable on this I’m going off what the internet says on the matter.

I’m just confused as to how Nazism got tangled up with conservatives.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:31 am to
Very few buzz words used in ideological politics have any objective, accurate, meaningful, or consistent definition.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41415 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:32 am to
quote:

FDR was conservative was he not?

I am not knowledable on this I’m going off what the internet says on the matter.

I’m just confused as to how Nazism got tangled up with conservatives.






frick off troll
Posted by DolphinDaddy
Miami, Fl.
Member since Apr 2022
1155 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:33 am to
I’m serious. If you search FDR it says he was conservative. I’m genuinely curious how we got the point where someone who is a neo nazi is grouped with conservatives and republicans.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Didn’t we help defeat Hitler (nazi) under a conservative President?
FDR? Nazis largest political enemies were the Communist party or leftists parties.
Posted by BasilFawlty
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2014
1268 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:35 am to
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FDR was conservative was he not?

JFC
Posted by DolphinDaddy
Miami, Fl.
Member since Apr 2022
1155 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:35 am to
Generally democrats aren’t conservative, but apparently FDR was?
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12273 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:35 am to
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In truth the right side of a political spectrum if that’s how you choose to visualize it would be anarchy.


You are mixing two different "left-right" continuums.

If you put the American Left and Right on the Authoritarian- Anarchy scale they would both be pretty far left with our founders a hair away from Anarchy around the time of the articles of confederation.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:35 am to
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Because people are generally simpletons, and attempt to define world politics based upon American domestic distinctions.

Cause 'merica is a pretty dishonest way to frame this. I've seen a lot of the simpletons figure out the lie in the right wing fascism narrative.

It's a deliberate obfuscation to create a false dichotomy. "Are you a fascist or a communist?" Which is exactly how the left approaches everything. "You're against abortion because you're racist!"

Doesn't leave a lot of room for honest debate.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34894 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:37 am to
Because progressive nazis control academia so they distort history to deflect from the evil outcomes of their ideologies.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Generally democrats aren’t conservative, but apparently FDR was?

Oh, yes. The great socialist reformer and borderline fascist. Super conservative.
Posted by DolphinDaddy
Miami, Fl.
Member since Apr 2022
1155 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:39 am to
I’m just confused on it all, because nazis are racist, bigots, and all that so how are they grouped with the political side that started off with kind hearted Christian folks?
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