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Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:35 pm to
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Doctor Brian Sutterer explains what he is pretty certain has taken place.


My first time seeing the play in question. Definitely doesn’t look vaccine related to me seeing as how he took a hard hit square to the heart seconds before he collapsed. Occam’s razor and all.

Prayers for the young man.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9598 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:37 pm to
But the PT medical experts had it all figured out!!!!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:38 pm to
Has this ever been documented before? If not, how are we so sure what it is? Seeing the hit, I would assume that the hit is the primary cause. I would also assume the Doctor is getting federal money in some fashion through his organization to combat misinformation.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46092 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:40 pm to
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I'd wait for the outcome to push any vaxx related stories here.


Yes sir, we America First patriots need to use good judgment and discretion when making MRNA juice injury claims, if we're wrong we can't live it down and the Dims win.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29767 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:42 pm to
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Has this ever been documented before?


Apparently it’s more common in baseball but thankfully not that common.

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would also assume the Doctor is getting federal money in some fashion through his organization to combat misinformation.


To your point, if it were vax related (which it doesn’t appear to be) we’ve got an ice cubes chance in hell of ever having that info disclosed.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56346 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:45 pm to
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This has everything to do with a hit to the chest and nothing to do with the shot.

I'm not saying this is clot related, but I don't know how you can say it's the hit with any degree of certainty.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1400 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:46 pm to
No, he says it's not the vax, period. What a lying sack of cht he is. How tf does he know that?
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8851 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:48 pm to
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To your point, if it were vax related (which it doesn’t appear to be) we’ve got an ice cubes chance in hell of ever having that info disclosed.



This is the point. We have no way of knowing because they would never disclose it. So all we can do is continue to notice these things happening at alarming rates and speculate. It sucks, it sucks because the last thing anyone wants to do is use a tragedy to speculate some other bigger picture situation. But because they have covered everything up, all we can do is continue to ask questions.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8851 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:50 pm to
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No, he says it's not the vax, period.


Exactly. Loses all credibility right there.

I don't think anyone has said in this thread that this is definitely the vax. Just asking questions and noticing the trend.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19522 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:53 pm to
You are what is wrong with this Country. You sound like a fricking politician.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3238 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:55 pm to

The study showed a greater risk of myocarditis or pericarditis in individuals who received the second dose of COVID-19 vaccine compared with those who only received the first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine.


For some people, myocarditis can scar the heart muscle, so it can't pump blood around the body as well as it should. The heart becomes enlarged, and weaker. This is sometimes called dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) or heart failure.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5638 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:00 pm to
You’re lying, but only to yourself. To say it’s a “fair question” would require people to use reason, intellectual curiosity, objectivity. None of those things exist w the antivax crowd. Especially not on this board.

If you don’t know that by now you’re either a) new here b) an imbecile c) both.

There is nothing, and I do mean nothing, the media, nfl, doctors, DHs family (or DH himself, hoping he recovers!) that would dissuade you and the other antivax folks from believing what you want. Nothing.

So in reality, no it’s not a “fair question to ask”. It’s an anitvax dog whistle, and you’re using a young man who likely died on a football field mere hours ago. Which if nothing else, is gross.

….”fair question”, good grief.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24961 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:01 pm to
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Why is any stance on the vaccines political other than being forced by the government? They aren’t political for me.


Because you're an idiot?

Joe & Kamala made it political first when they first rejected the shot, then tried to claim it as their own. You DO remember Joe stated as a matter of fact that there WAS NO SHOT before he was in office, right?

quote:

However why is there such a high number of excess death over what is normal excluding covid death. Like 20 percent higher.


Yes. There is. Don't knew why you arbitrarily used "20%" as a number, but you did.

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I don’t care your political affiliation just explain why these things are happening. I want answers
Which brings us back to 'vax or no vax'. You dismissed out of hand. And now you're asking what I asked?

Seriously, read better.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8851 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

You’re lying, but only to yourself. To say it’s a “fair question” would require people to use reason, intellectual curiosity, objectivity


The first thing the doctor says is "it is not vaccine related". How on earth could he say that with such certainty? And why would he even say that? So I guess we aren't even allowed to ask questions?
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 10:07 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10694 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68235 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

 How on earth could he say that with such certainty?
Because the player had seconds prior recieved a trauma to his chest.

quote:

And why would he even say that?
Because the internet went off instantly that this was the vax. He read it. He responded.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5638 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:15 pm to
Maybe it was the sore tooth he had last week, that could’ve been a rare flesh eating virus. How could he be so certain!?!??

The fundamental flaw with 99% of the antivax crowd is they actually have no idea what vaccines (of any kind) do or don’t do. Don’t believe me? Find one in person (wo the ability to google) and ask them the basics.

But really that’s neither here nor there, that’s not what you’re doing. Everybody knows that. Here’s my question for you, did this player likely dying give you ANY pause??? Like maybe it’s a shitty thing to do???
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68235 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:16 pm to
New England Journal of Medicine 1995

Since you just asking questions.


quote:

CONCLUSIONS

We speculate that most sudden deaths related to impact to the chest (not associated with traumatic injury) are due to ventricular dysrhythmia induced by an abrupt, blunt precordial blow, presumably delivered at an electrically vulnerable phase of ventricular excitability. This profile of blunt chest impact leading to cardiac arrest adds to our understanding of the range of causes of sudden death on the athletic field and may help in the development of preventive measures


This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 10:18 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:00 pm to
amazing levels of fear and regret

some say the worst is yet to come

make no mistake the virtue signalers and vax mandaters of the past are beside themselves with fear, DEEP FEAR, and regret, DEEP regret
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

I know you don't want to hear reason. Carry on.

reason? like discussing M-rna therapy MANDATES or like getting giddy that people were facing lose your job or take this therapy?

Reason?

Fear and regret? Sheer fear and regret, made personal, made life or death by these shitty politicians with which we are plagued.
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