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This is a real Reddit post: returns on investments are an unnecessary cost to society
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:50 pm
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Capitalism imposes an extra cost on the economy: the cost of the need for investors to get a return on their investment
the state does not "need" a return on its endeavors. As long as it doesn't spend more than it takes in in tax funds or service fees, it will exist.
A private company, on the other hand, needs MORE than the cost of production to survive, because the investors/banks/owners need money to justify their investment.
What this means is that a state-provided service can price its service lower than a capitalist mode of production, because that extra investor cost is not present.
An example of this is healthcare.
Came across it while scrolling through r/debatealibertarian
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It just hasn’t been done right and will surely work in America.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So much retard in one paragraph.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Someone needs to go back to ECON 101 and have it taught by a special education teacher
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Try finding a dentist in UK after august.
An example of this is healthcare.
quote:I wonder if this person gives away every dollar they have left at then end of each month when all bills are paid?
Capitalism imposes an extra cost on the economy: the cost of the need for investors to get a return on their investment
the state does not "need" a return on its endeavors. As long as it doesn't spend more than it takes in in tax funds or service fees, it will exist.
It's so stupid it's hard to know if its real, and if so how to respond.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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he state does not "need" a return on its endeavors. As long as it doesn't spend more than it takes in in tax funds
guess what happens when the state ALWAYS spends more than it takes
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Did they happen to mention where the state gets its money for their endeavors?
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
What this means is that a state-provided service can price its service lower than a capitalist mode of production, because that extra investor cost is not present.
Its like this person is literally blind and deaf. There is no single government entity with a private analogue that runs better than the private analogue.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Two words say this is total bullshite:
Post Office
Post Office
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Micheal Moore says Cuba is a great example. Communist state of the art.
What this means is that a state-provided service can price its service lower than a capitalist mode of production, because that extra investor cost is not present.
An example of this is healthcare.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
sad part is the redditors will totally believe his BS.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
These same people want to get rid of government police because it doesn't work and want more government healthcare because it will work.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Capitalism imposes an extra cost on the economy: the cost of the need for investors to get a return on their investment
Well this person decided to out themselves as ignorant right out of the gates
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:01 pm to Taxing Authority
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more than it takes in in tax funds or service fees, it will exist. I wonder if this person gives away every dollar they have left at then end of each month when all bills are paid?
This person probably lives off of the state and has no bills to pay.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
He forgot to include the fact that the state doesn't actually have to provide a good service in order to get your dollar.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:02 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Yabbut... they got rid of all those evil rich people!! SUCCESS!!
Micheal Moore says Cuba is a great example. Communist state of the art.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
the state does not "need" a return on its endeavors. As long as it doesn't spend more than it takes in in tax funds or service fees, it will exist.
Then why are we running a deficit in the trillions of dollars???
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Anyone who thinks these loons won’t come for your 401Ks if they think they have a chance.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I believe there is an element if truth to that. There is a certain 90 day mindset with some powerful investors. They want events that will reflect to their bottom line and then they sell out and are gone. Had it in a prior company. An investment group bought a significant position...forced the company to divest of significant steady assets....took the short term profits and was gone. The company was built on a highly fluctuating component and a steady component. The speculative side lasted a few years and was eventually bought out in a down cycle
It was a good move for a few peoples accounts but ultimately ruined the company
I salute michael dell and co for buying his company back and getting it out of that 90 day earnings call mindset by investors
Is this every fund/investor...no but there is overall damage done by the ones that operate by that mentality
Capitalism isnt 100% with out fault...it just happens to be WAY better than it's next practical rival
It was a good move for a few peoples accounts but ultimately ruined the company
I salute michael dell and co for buying his company back and getting it out of that 90 day earnings call mindset by investors
Is this every fund/investor...no but there is overall damage done by the ones that operate by that mentality
Capitalism isnt 100% with out fault...it just happens to be WAY better than it's next practical rival
Posted on 8/29/20 at 2:12 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:I saw a budget pie graph on Facebook for a 25 year old living in the Boston area who earned 100,000 a year but lived with roommates and didn’t own a car, but he paid money for a house cleaner and had a monthly $600 donation to a homeless shelter in his budget
I wonder if this person gives away every dollar they have left at then end of each month when all bills are paid?
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