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re: The White House has blocked the transfer of Patriot missiles to Ukraine

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Posted by riccoar
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:02 pm to
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blaming it for things like the high diesel prices the war is causing.


So it's Russia that blew up it's own diesel refineries and sent diesel prices skyward?

Posted by Athis
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:06 pm to
No deal is going to be made if we keep giving Ukraine weapons... Time to go to the table and end this shite...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
486118 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:06 pm to
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So it's Russia that blew up it's own diesel refineries and sent diesel prices skyward?

Russia started the war. All blame flows back to that.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:08 pm to
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This psyop that brainwashed people into hating Ukraine is so strange...one of the stranger scenarios I can remember in my 25-ish years following politics.


Is this a joke? Ukraine has long been despised and mocked as a corrupt, irredeemable former Soviet state.

It wasn’t until people like you fell victim to the Russian Dossier pysop you began to pretend you cared because you thought it damaging to Trump.

I think I understand your strategy here now. Your intent is to have so many posts it becomes virtually impossible to locate any of your previously held outlandish positions.
Posted by c on z
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:09 pm to
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Leftists the next minute: "Trump won't endlessly send weapons and money to Ukraine!!! We have to stay involved!!! This is a fight worth staying and endlessly fighting!! No surrender!! No deals!!! See it to though!!!!"

We’re sending troops to this particular war?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Ukraine has long been despised and mocked as a corrupt, irredeemable former Soviet state.

That became a random echo chamber talking point via online content creators pushing Russian narratives.

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It wasn’t until people like you fell victim to the Russian Dossier pysop y

Fell victim? What?

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I think I understand your strategy here now. Your intent is to have so many posts it becomes virtually impossible to locate any of your previously held outlandish positions.



Your projection creating a strawman that is the polar opposite of what my stance was (and has always been) isn't my fault, brother. It's just you being dishonest.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:10 pm to
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frick Russia and Putin. Russia blows up residential buildings, parks, and hospitals. Ukraine is fricking up Russian energy infrastructure


I know some people like to think that Russia targets only civilian infrastructure and Ukraine targets only military and energy infrastructure and never civilian structures but that is not reality.
Posted by Wrex
Member since Oct 2026
76 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:11 pm to
Russia invading Ukraine was in their national and sphere of influence.

The US blows up nations that have done nothing to us 10,000 miles away.
Posted by beaux duke
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:11 pm to
oops, you're right. i skipped right over the 1812 part. my mistake
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:12 pm to
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That became a random echo chamber talking point via online content creators pushing Russian narratives.


Ukraine being corrupt is not true but rather Russian propaganda?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18458 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:12 pm to
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We’re sending troops to this particular war?


There is the same number of combat troops on the ground in Iran as there are in Ukraine.

Correct?
Posted by JoyBoyNika
Member since Jun 2026
207 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:12 pm to
Oh you’re serious. I think there’s a major difference between ww2 and Putin dragging his nuts all over poor little Ukraine that nobody gives a frick about
Posted by Giantkiller
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Member since Sep 2007
26294 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:13 pm to
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The White House has blocked the transfer of Patriot missiles to Ukraine



Good. frick Ukraine. Their time to get this shite wrapped up has expired. Now the people of the country can solidly look at their idiot leader and realize he's been fricking them all along.
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
27858 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:13 pm to
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At this moment I trust Russia more than most of western Europe.


You damn right.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
8580 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Too bad about the Ukrainian women and children killed by Russian drone and missile attacks…


Riiiight, because no Russians have died.

Who fricking cares what those 2 jackass countries do?
Russia will never nuke us, and we will never nuke them.

Its all theater, to make you pay the machines
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
8224 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:16 pm to
We aren’t even giving to Ukraine much anymore.

Almost all aid has ended and we’re still intentionally handicapping them because Trump is straight up afraid of Putin.

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Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:16 pm to
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That became a random echo chamber talking point via online content creators pushing Russian narratives.


No it did not. This was a widely held belief as far back as 1996 starting with Pavlo Lazarenko.

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Fell victim? What?




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Your projection creating a strawman that is the polar opposite of what my stance was (and has always been) isn't my fault, brother. It's just you being dishonest.


Neither a projection nor a straw man. Simply a secondary observation. I assumed your were capable of engaging in multiple conversations simultaneously. My apologies
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49613 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:16 pm to
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I understand it’s not a perfect metaphor but a relatively new nation, being attacked by an existing large power


It’s a horrendous analogy because it ignores that fact the Ukraine government was overthrown in 2014 with the help of Western Nations and the puppet government immediately threatened Russia’s most important military infrastructure in Crimea.

Arguing right/wrong, good/evil is a waste of time as it concerns foreign policy. At the end of the day, Russia’s response to the threat of losing Savastapol was a completely foreseeable event and was set in motion my horrific foreign policy on the part of the Obama Administration.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
486118 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Russia invading Ukraine was in their national and sphere of influence.

This means nothing without legitimate provocation
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
6399 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Only one of those leaderships invaded a sovereign nation without legitimate provocation.


So you are providing an opinion but stating it is fact.

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