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re: THE warharks insist that WE all believe Russia started the war. We started it. Here's how

Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77136 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:34 pm to
If there are shenanigans on the world political stage, it’s fairly certain that the US, Israel and Britain are behind it.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46088 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:50 pm to
Putin only cares about military guarantees baked into the contract. NATO is a treaty, bound by its members, not some fake arse western-lead global "court" telling the planet earth when and where it can take a shite.

Russia, the US, China, all of them will ultimately do whatever tf they want. You know this.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85987 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:54 pm to
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Yeah, well, there are better guys and worse guys. And I'm not going to be baggered into hating on Putin and Russia by the same deep state that caused this mess and hates me anyway.

Anyone that actually studies this issue knows that we basically bullied and got in Russias grill... and continued to do it until we got what we deserved.

Now it's time.to stop it.


None of this requires us to do some ahistorical exercise and claim that Russia didn't start the war.

Dudes rushing to simp for Russia are just as stupid as the Ukraine flag bros and the Israel-first types.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2092 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:00 pm to
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you deserve to be on the front lines of this war for profit that you so feel so passionately about.


I don't know if you are missing my sarcasm or if I am missing yours. I very clearly understand that the US is not really the good guy. That was the joke.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10187 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:12 pm to
Arguing over who started the war is irrelevant
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9412 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:18 pm to
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If 30 minutes is too long for you then you're basically admitting you have no desire to actually be informed on the subject so why should anybody answer anything you fricking ask


quote:

Grumpy Nemesis


Name checks out.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3285 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:20 pm to
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by office you mean his mobile home.

Have a little respect for Judge Mathis's office building.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466127 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:31 pm to
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Putin only cares about military guarantees baked into the contract. NATO is a treaty, bound by its members, not some fake arse western-lead global "court" telling the planet earth when and where it can take a shite.

What do you think forms those courts?

Treaties.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3285 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Dudes rushing to simp for Russia are just as stupid as the Ukraine flag bros and the Israel-first types.


Unless they intend to fight to the death or one of the parties moves, Russia and Ukraine are going to have to get along. Based on the information (aka lies) my government and the media gave me about covid, I now assume everything they say is a lie. I'm going to have to see some hard physical evidence/proof that the Ukrainians are the good guys and the Russians are the bad guys.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85987 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Unless they intend to fight to the death or one of the parties moves, Russia and Ukraine are going to have to get along. Based on the information (aka lies) my government and the media gave me about covid, I now assume everything they say is a lie. I'm going to have to see some hard physical evidence/proof that the Ukrainians are the good guys and the Russians are the bad guys.


(somewhat) Counterpoint: You can think Russia started the war and still label them the good guys if you want.

Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3285 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:44 pm to
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You can think Russia started the war and still label them the good guys if you want.


Not labeling anyone. Either one kills the other or they have to get along. The dems want continued support for Ukraine because they have been getting billions in kick backs from Ukraine.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56169 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:50 pm to
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That's 30 minutes long and I'm not watching it, but I am wondering if you'll answer one question.


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What actions did the US take that violated international law?


WATCH THE VIDEO YOU BIG DUMMY
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35765 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:15 pm to
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SFP will not be amused.


I didn't have a chance to post this morning but is he still pretending the Holodomor never happened?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52139 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:19 pm to
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And when the US was pushing for Ukraine to join NATO in 2014, the population and administration favored not joining NATO.

This is not true. The people radically favored uniting with Europe. You can see it in their fashion, the number who have learned English, and if you go over there you’ll hear them say it.

What you are ignoring is the Russian interference in these governments.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43935 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:20 pm to
90% of our foreign policy decisions could be fixed by simply asking, 'what if someone did that to us?'

Always get a kick out of people complaining about Iranians chanting 'death to America'. It's like, have you read a history book?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466127 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:21 pm to
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is he still pretending the Holodomor never happened?


The frick?

Something that never happened.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66648 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:24 pm to
Overthrowing Mosaddegh is one of those retarded things we never should have done. Like overthrowing Saddam.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10543 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 12:16 am to
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i am dan


There's nothing in your reply that I can see that outlines where the US violated international law, which was the question.

if we're going to complain about the US violating a treaty, then we need to be upset that the US didn't abide by the treaty we signed with Ukraine in which we promised that if they gave up their nuclear weapons we'd dfend them from outside aggressors.

We didn't.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10543 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 12:22 am to
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If you would watch the video is explains in great deal that not only did we violate multiple treaties we also violated international law.


O.k., but I'm not going to.

It appears to be another one of the conspiracy porn pieces of garbage that gets posted here regularly and I'm just not willing to risk wasting my time on it.

If no one is either willing or able to answer the question and I have to watch the video to find out what the claim is, I just won't know, and that's fine.

By next week everyone, including the people plugging it here right now, will have forgotten about it since it's almost certainly nonsense in the first place. On some level they know that, although they will pretend not to.

And on the one in a zillion chance it's not, I'll hear about it from some legitimate news source.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21898 posts
Posted on 2/27/25 at 12:28 am to
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RiverCityTider
utter retard
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