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re: The U.S. was founded as a Christian nation. Not this Judeo-Christian crap.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:32 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:32 pm to wackatimesthree
Murder and theft - I believe those are illegal in every country on earth
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:38 pm to IMSA_Fan
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Murder and theft - I believe those are illegal in every country on earth
So there's two.
Keep going.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:46 pm to IMSA_Fan
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The rest are religious or moral guidelines only.
They weren't always.
Adultery used to be illegal in most locales. So was blasphemy. There are still Blue laws in some locales. Some locales had laws requiring people to provide for their elderly parents. At least some of the original state charters required a profession of faith in Christ to be citizens of those states.
In fact, the only commandments I can't find an example of corresponding laws for are the two "covet" laws, which can't be codified since there is no way to prove it.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:48 pm to wackatimesthree
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International politics.
They had to get the Mooslims to sign it.
Surely you have some writings from these Senators saying as such and aren't being a progressive pretending to read the minds of others and just so happen across the answer you want most, right?
Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:52 pm to Eurocat
Good luck, but you will get downvoted to oblivion by the people who have not read much of the writings or history of the Founders beyond what they were exposed to in school.
The same people who (rightly, IMHO) rail on schools for not teaching the basics also want to farm out prayer to those places.
Thank you, no.
The same people who (rightly, IMHO) rail on schools for not teaching the basics also want to farm out prayer to those places.
Thank you, no.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:53 pm to hashtag
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the point of that article was to dispel the notion that there would be a religious war of Christians vs Muslims. It was a lie, like politicians do, to get an agreement signed.
And you couldn't find a single Senator that thought that lying about the nation's founding was wrong? Even one no vote on principle?
The world some of you live in.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:16 pm to wackatimesthree
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According to what evidence? Gary Habermas has traced the Gospel—fully theologically formed—all the way back to within about 3 weeks of Jesus' death as an oral doctrine. Paul didn't convert for about three years after that. So what do you know that Gary Habermas doesn't know?
ok. 
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:45 pm to GumboPot
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And you know Christ started Christianity
He actually didnt. He was the rock on which the church was built. He gave the power to build the church to Peter. When the church began in the upper room, Christ had already ascended. The footwork was done by Peter, Paul and others
And every single one of them were Jews. It wasnt until later that gentiles (the bulk of Christianity today) were grafted in at the Council of Jerusalem. But make no mistake that the church was founded on Jewish traditions in the proclaiming of the Christ
Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:13 pm to Azkiger
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Surely you have some writings from these Senators saying as such and aren't being a progressive pretending to read the minds of others and just so happen across the answer you want most, right?
Surely you aren't being like Bill Clinton parsing he definition of the word "is," right now, are you?
If it's unreasonable to draw a conclusion on the motives of such an obvious situation as the example given, then we can't draw any conclusions about motives from history.
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:23 pm to GumboPot
Judaism and Christianity are as different as Islam and Christianity.
Tons of sheep who blindly follow Israel because they think they are supposed to on this site though. The talmud is a disgusting piece of literature.
Islam teaches that Jesus was a prophet born to a virgin and that he performed miracles. Judaism completely denied any divinity of Jesus and says Mary was a whore while Jesus practiced black magic and is burning in hell.
Tons of sheep who blindly follow Israel because they think they are supposed to on this site though. The talmud is a disgusting piece of literature.
Islam teaches that Jesus was a prophet born to a virgin and that he performed miracles. Judaism completely denied any divinity of Jesus and says Mary was a whore while Jesus practiced black magic and is burning in hell.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:23 pm to Mo Jeaux
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ok.
Again, that's what I thought.
PhD in History and Philosophy of Religion From Michigan State, undergraduate minors in Greek, English, philosophy and speech, creator of the "minimal facts" argument that revolutionized the study of early church history, author/co-author of 50 academic books, half or more about the early church including the academic works on the Resurrection Volumes I and II, but you know better than him because you can post a laughing emoji.
That's it. You've convinced me.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:27 pm to lake chuck fan
Blindly support them murdering children? Yikes.
Paul affirms Israel's special status as God's chosen people but clarifies that not all who are physically descended from Israel belong to the true "Israel" of God. He teaches that a "true Israel" is a remnant of ethnic Jews and believing Gentiles who are saved by God's grace through faith in Christ, with the ultimate promise of national conversion for all Israel in the future.
Also a surprise for you: descendants of displaced European Jews post WW2 do not constitute “Israel” of the Bible. Wake up and quit being ignorant.
Paul affirms Israel's special status as God's chosen people but clarifies that not all who are physically descended from Israel belong to the true "Israel" of God. He teaches that a "true Israel" is a remnant of ethnic Jews and believing Gentiles who are saved by God's grace through faith in Christ, with the ultimate promise of national conversion for all Israel in the future.
Also a surprise for you: descendants of displaced European Jews post WW2 do not constitute “Israel” of the Bible. Wake up and quit being ignorant.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:03 am to AUcs13
Freedom of Religion.
Christianity as the National Religion
Prayer in public schools.
No federal funding for abortion.
Christian Symbology acceptable on Federal Property
CHRISTMAS AND Good Friday federal Holidays.
Christianity as the National Religion
Prayer in public schools.
No federal funding for abortion.
Christian Symbology acceptable on Federal Property
CHRISTMAS AND Good Friday federal Holidays.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:51 am to wackatimesthree
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Surely you aren't being like Bill Clinton parsing he definition of the word "is," right now, are you?
If it's unreasonable to draw a conclusion on the motives of such an obvious situation as the example given, then we can't draw any conclusions about motives from history.
If I stuck my brain in a microwave and set it to a minute, this shite might actually come across as a competent rebuttal.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:20 am to GumboPot
Don’t swallow the hook. Be free of constraints and have no fear. There is no such thing as hell. You me everyone is not that important
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:25 am to GumboPot
Fuuny how we get crucified by the Christ killers on here though
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:31 am to Eurocat
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Read the letters of the founders to one another or to their spouses, children, friends. God comes up with almost annoying frequency
You’re a lost and confused person. I hope you see the light before it is too late.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:09 am to GumboPot
Biggest threat to the Christian aspect of America is not some connection with Judaism but the evil of the secular world where idiots can spew antisemitic hate as if it was intelligent discourse.
If you pay attention to the PT boards you'll see the same KKK type thinking make its self known from the same sick posters.
The secular world has created sin as a virtue, hate as form of empathy and ignorance as a form of knowledge.
If someone is worried about the Christian character of the USA, which I think we ware created as, they need to walk the walk, be more like Christ and follow the rules in the Good Book.
Hating Jews is a sick mental illness.
If you pay attention to the PT boards you'll see the same KKK type thinking make its self known from the same sick posters.
The secular world has created sin as a virtue, hate as form of empathy and ignorance as a form of knowledge.
If someone is worried about the Christian character of the USA, which I think we ware created as, they need to walk the walk, be more like Christ and follow the rules in the Good Book.
Hating Jews is a sick mental illness.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:16 am to GumboPot
Take it a step further. The US was founded as a Protestant nation and rose to power as a protestant nation. Then the Catholics and Jews jumped on the bandwagon, and after them was Muslims, and Hindus.
EDIT: for the downvoting Catholics. Less than 50,000 Catholics in the US during the Revolution. Look it up. Y'all were not the foundation of this nation.
EDIT: for the downvoting Catholics. Less than 50,000 Catholics in the US during the Revolution. Look it up. Y'all were not the foundation of this nation.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 7:20 am
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:47 am to wackatimesthree
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Again, that's what I thought.
PhD in History and Philosophy of Religion From Michigan State, undergraduate minors in Greek, English, philosophy and speech, creator of the "minimal facts" argument that revolutionized the study of early church history, author/co-author of 50 academic books, half or more about the early church including the academic works on the Resurrection Volumes I and II, but you know better than him because you can post a laughing emoji.
That's it. You've convinced me.
And I can find you plenty of credentialed academics that disagree with him. And no one is trying to convince you. Believe what you believe.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 6:50 am
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