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re: The US not having enough munitions is a lie

Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by Deege
Member since Dec 2007
926 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:27 pm to
The Art of War:

Appear weak when you are strong.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13790 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:28 pm to
It’s not a leak if it is a lie. So how could it be treason?
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9978 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:35 pm to
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Most likely because anonymous sources are usually just made up,



If any reporter at the Washington Post or NY Times gets caught "making up a source," they get fired. Everything they write is scrutinized by their editors before its published.

The two NY TImes White House reporters just wrote a tell-all book about the Trump administration. Trump responded by trying to subpoena the reporters phone records. JD Vance wondered if they had hidden recorded devices in meetings. It was basically "Damn! How'd they do that?"

Somtimes the NY Times and Washington Post sources will mislead their reporters, like the GW Bush administration did about WMBDs in Iraq, but to say that "anonymous sources are just made up" is just dopey.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31077 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:55 pm to
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It would stand to reason that since we're able to let go of over 3000 missiles we're currently using, we have a shite ton laying around.


That logic holds some of the time.

The problem with any solid rocket motor is they have a shelf life. The fuel is encased in a plasticiser to slow settling, but it still settles. At some point, they have to be returned to the manufacturer for motor replacement or disposal, depending on the missile. Generally, when we have sold or given them to Ukraine we give ones closest to expiration because they are going to use them in the short term.

So just because we sold them last year (delivery starts later this year) it doesn't mean we had a large extra supply. It may have been our estimated usage didn't take into account the conflict we are in. This is what makes keeping stockpiles correct. Preventing over supply and and having lots expire and preventing not having enough for any given conflict requires a crystal ball. It is a knife-edge predicting usage. This means it is not unusual for use to have to destroy a lot that are expired or get the manufacturers to increase production on short notice.

I do not think we have any truly critical shortages because if we did, there would be rumblings in the OSINT community about suppliers starting up 2nd and 3rd shifts etc. That being said we almost certainly have certain types of interceptors and missiles that are fully in the "yellow" in terms of stockpiles.
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
1268 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:36 pm to
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Or does it mean manufactured elsewhere and being shipped to the US?


This is my understanding. We are outsourcing our weapons production to third world countries. We now have generic brand weapons that are produced by other countries.
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
1268 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:40 pm to
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I do not think we have any truly critical shortages because if we did, there would be rumblings in the OSINT community about suppliers starting up 2nd and 3rd shifts etc. 


Unless the weapons aren't considered first tier anymore. In the evolving battlefield, as we have seen in Ukraine, they may not be as important now.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
12089 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:40 pm to
The usual suspect idiots here are going to run with anything bad about Trump.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29378 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 12:12 am to
If this is true...

quote:

"The U.S. has massive amounts of 'munitions,'


Why does he give a shite about this...


quote:

"The 'leakers' of these treasonous statements are being hunted down,"
.

If the information allegedly leaked isn't true, then nothing was leaked.

Apparently Trump thinks we're all retards.


Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
3945 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 12:31 am to
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If any reporter at the Washington Post or NY Times gets caught "making up a source," they get fired. Everything they write is scrutinized by their editors before its published.


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Violent Hip Swivel


Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13726 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 12:43 am to
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This is a coordinated disinformation campaign run by CIA

I guess Trump will fire the CIA director tomorrow amd charge him with treason?

Because leaking classified data is one thing. But coordinating a disinformation campaign to subvert the interests and efforts of the US government sounds serious.

Is Trump aware that this is going on under his watch? What is he doing about it?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20705 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:14 am to
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I'm sure we offshore some of these things.


f35s have 1650 different suppliers in over a dozen countries and 47 states plus puerto rico. Every state wants a piece of those govt contracts......price be damned.

Its why so much military equipment is so much over budget and are delayed by years especially the f22 which is a disaster. Its original cost was 35 million, its final cost 350 million per plane.

Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9971 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:20 am to
They need to be found and fired. Too many morons in government. Doubt that, stand in line at DOT, or do a government construction project.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
170785 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:59 am to
You dont say...
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