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re: The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.

Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by threeputt23
Hammond la
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:29 pm to
No one is born gay or trans. Correct. It’s just a result of bad parenting.
Posted by Colonel Angus
Member since Aug 2007
2143 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:29 pm to
Many gay people often have a fractured relationship with the same sex parent. Abuse or just a simple estrangement or dysfunction
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6208 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:32 pm to
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I think that’s mostly a genetic anomaly

Do you have a theory why the numbers have more than 10xed in the past 30 years?

I would note Pavlovs dog recieved chemical rewards that were transferred to the bell.

The chemical reward process can be rewired easily.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 9:35 pm
Posted by MississippiTigerGirl
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Sep 2007
561 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:34 pm to
The apple was born with a stem or it wasn’t. This is easy.
Posted by Harald Ekernson
Louisiana
Member since May 2025
384 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:34 pm to
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Speculative

Sure and it’s my opinion just like you have one. No one actually knows and there’s no scientific proof (yet) either way.

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You have an agenda

I have an opinion, just like you do.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:35 pm to
Not disputing your comments, but when I was a kid back in the 60’s there was at least 8 guys all within 4 years apart in our neighborhood. We all played football in the street, rode bikes and did all the things young kids do.
But, across the street was one kid who never participated with anything we were doing. We never messed with him but we knew he was different. When we were out doing guy stuff it was not unusual to see him playing with dolls with my younger sister on our front porch. More interesting was his dad with a gearhead with cool cars and stuff. Nothing gay about him. His mom was very nice and was friendly with the neighbors. They were the Ward and June Cleaver on our street.
But there was something different about him. Back then was nothing to influence his behavior and what would a 6-7 year old know about that stuff anyway.
It was no surprise when I was told he died of aids in his twenties. My brother, sisters and I were never able to explain how that started with him.


This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:36 pm to
To simplify it down to a single gene for something like sexual preferences is not even remotely close to an actual understanding of how our bodies develop over a lifecycle. It's just a dumbed down older media talking point not a scientific view of anything or anything more than your opinion.... When you're ready to discuss how it can be an environmental based but still be born that way we can have a real adult sit-down....


A more simple question would be why did you decide you weren't gay? What made you decide you were attracted to women? Did you have to be told?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43540 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:37 pm to
Joined 3 months ago with the DU Wave.

It’s an agenda.

Or

A shitty opinion.

Both not grounded in fact.

Kindly gfy.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6208 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:39 pm to
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how our bodies develop over a lifecycle.

So not born gay.

Thank you.

I'm more than willing to see more studies into epigenetic triggers.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5613 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:41 pm to
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A more simple question would be why did you decide you weren't gay? What made you decide you were attracted to women? Did you have to be told?


Or, an even more simple question is why have you avoided me? I know why. I want you to admit it in front of everyone.
Posted by Harald Ekernson
Louisiana
Member since May 2025
384 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:41 pm to
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Joined 3 months ago with the DU Wave.

You’re an idiot.

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A shitty opinion.

A hundred fold better than your shitty opinion.

quote:

Kindly gfy.

Same to you minus the kindness.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45868 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:42 pm to
Everyone is conceived in sin. Everyone struggles with certain spiritual proclivities towards sin. All need to repent and trust in Jesus Christ for forgiveness of their sin.

No sin should be tolerated, much less celebrated.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46246 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:43 pm to
Why does the left insist that being born gay is a thing though? Why does that matter?

They CLEARLY are not. It’s a psychological defect that deviates from basic human sexual biology. How that defect happens doesn’t really matter.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10712 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:45 pm to
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I think some kids are born gay.


Well, nobody is born gay (or straight) because nobody is born being sexually aware enough to express a preference. But I know what you mean, and I agree with you.

I think some people are hardwired. If not from birth, from a very young age—at whatever age sexual awareness develops.

I also think people may develop gender dysphoria around the same age.

I'm also skeptical that anybody really knows why. If I had to guess I would say that it could be a genetic predisposition set into motion via some kind of environmental stimuli. Or it could be just one or the other. But most behavioral tics are a combination of both as far as I know, so my conclusion is that this one probably is too. It's probably what some people on the left think AND what some people on the right think.

Now, none of that = that gay is normal or healthy. I don't think it is. I think gender dysphoria is even less healthy...frankly, I think people with gender dysphoria are very mentally ill people. But gay is unhealthy too in my estimation.

I don't think it is in anyone's best interest to encourage gay or trans people to express in those ways.

But I'm with you. I think some people are hardwired and I think others are more sexually fluid and choose that expression. Particularly women...the research shows that on average women are way more sexually fluid than men.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:46 pm to
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So not born gay.

Thank you.

I'm more than willing to see more studies into epigenetic triggers


Again you are not thinking in the correct terms here. You can be born with something that doesn't display till later. Ie you don't normally have strong sexual desires till puberty.... Love and attraction are hormone based things. Horomones balancing is both driven by environmental factors and genetic factors prior to birth.


I would recommend the book behave by robert sapulski to get a better understanding of the nuance here.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10712 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Why does that matter?

They CLEARLY are not. It’s a psychological defect that deviates from basic human sexual biology. How that defect happens doesn’t really matter.


Agree.

People hold to that because they want to be able to say that if someone is wired up a certain way, that means it must be o.k. for them to express it.

And when you give an example of someone wired a certain way that we all agree is not o.k. to express, like a pedophile or a psychopath, they want to be able to say, "YOU JUST COMPARED GAY PEOPLE TO PSYCHOPATHS, YOU HOMOPHOBIC BIGOT!"
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10712 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:48 pm to
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Everyone is conceived in sin. Everyone struggles with certain spiritual proclivities towards sin. All need to repent and trust in Jesus Christ for forgiveness of their sin.

No sin should be tolerated, much less celebrated.



And finally, I agree with this as well.

We all have desires that would be sinful to act upon. All of us. Homosexual desires are no different.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5613 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:49 pm to
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Again you are not thinking in the correct terms here. You can be born with something that doesn't display till later. Ie you don't normally have strong sexual desires till puberty.... Love and attraction are hormone based things. Horomones balancing is both driven by environmental factors and genetic factors prior to birth.


Still?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9060 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:50 pm to
Is there any data indicating that young people changed their sexual orientation after abuse?

Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27421 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:52 pm to
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Is there any data indicating that young people changed their sexual orientation after abuse?


Nope.
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