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re: The True History of the Jonestown Cult, WWII, and How Winston Churchill Ruined Europe
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:16 pm to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:16 pm to Lima Whiskey
That's what the Nazis thought too - purification of the volk and all that. But it failed, but hope springs eternal for the fash.
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:18 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Churchill has as much responsibility for the outcome as anyone.
A very good outcome, by the way.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:20 pm to TigerDoc
The time of America being an ethno state or even a potential ethno state are loooong gone. Mass deportations are for the illegals, at least the very recent ones of the past 5 years, because they are overwhelming the system and it send a terrible message, both abroad and especially to our citizens, that we bend over backwards to accommodate and even pay them with welfare benefits
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:21 pm to TigerDoc
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Churchill has as much responsibility for the outcome as anyone.
A very good outcome, by the way.
Whoa now. I know the Jews started communism and all but I don’t think they deserved the Holocaust. Shame on you
Posted on 9/4/24 at 4:02 pm to OBReb6
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But I completely agree with his premise that none of the other atrocities (at least German performed atrocities) would have happened without Churchill and his warmongering.
So Churchill and his warmongering caused the Holocaust?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 4:46 pm to TigerDoc
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A very good outcome, by the way.
It breaks the UK, and it leaves it forever weaker.
Whatever you want, it doesn't appear to be good for us.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:31 pm to Lima Whiskey
This guy is pushing revisionist history crap. Churchill was bad, Hitler was good. Yeah, sounds like he has been reading Eustace Mullins or William Guy Carr.
The people on this thread who are buying this crap are weak minded fools who rarely, if ever, reject a conspiracy theory.
The people on this thread who are buying this crap are weak minded fools who rarely, if ever, reject a conspiracy theory.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:03 am to OBReb6
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Are you being willfully obtuse? All of this talk is illegal in Europe and you’ll go to prison. In the US, while not illegal, it has historically been enough to ruin your career. It is not something that would have ever been allowed on any television programs. Really, it’s only very recently and primarily due to a shift in access largely because of twitter and TikTok, that it’s getting widely discussed. You could find stuff like this on 4chan, but most people don’t go there and you have to have enough sense from a lot of time spent there to navigate what has grains of truth between the countless trolls and intel ops. And you see the reaction to the very recent availability of information to these topics at a large scale. The government of the US, which has a supposed first amendment, votes to ban TikTok. And now there are open calls to reign in Musk for Twitter and saying he’s a larger threat than Russia, and the NYT saying maybe the constitution is a mistake. But sure, anyone can talk about this stuff and we’re the paranoid ones. Get your bullshite out of here, people have had enough of it
Amen brother and well said
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:06 am to LookSquirrel
I'll post what I posted on YouTube after watching the WWII segment yesterday afternoon:
Darryl Cooper's views on WWII and Winston Churchill are so warped I don't even know where to begin.
1) He talks about how Germany wanted peace with the Allies after they invaded Poland but Britain insisted on continuing the fight, completely ignoring how Britain said they could discuss peace with Germany just as soon as German forces were withdrawn from Poland. He also ignores the fact that the French and British had already been duped by Hitler's talks of peace at Munich the year before. They weren't falling for that again. It must also be noted that while Hitler was talking about peace with the western powers he was telling his generals to attack France by November 1939.
2) He ignores how the Luftwaffe was firebombing British cities during the Battle of Britain. They weren't dropping leaflets on London, they were dropping bombs. You can google the term "Blitz" right now and that famous picture of smoke rising over St. Paul's cathedral in London will immediately pop up.
3) His claim that the Germans didn't know what to do with all of those prisoners from their campaign into Russia is absolutely laughable. We have official OKW documents from 1941 explaining what the Einsatzgruppen were to do once they captured Soviet political prisoners - shoot them on sight. The Germans deliberately starved and murdered Red Army prisoners because they were Slavs and thus were seen as sub-human by the German state. None of this is hearsay. We have documented evidence from top German officials via official government memos that outlined these policies prior to Operation Barbarossa even beginning.
Darryl Cooper's views on WWII and Winston Churchill are so warped I don't even know where to begin.
1) He talks about how Germany wanted peace with the Allies after they invaded Poland but Britain insisted on continuing the fight, completely ignoring how Britain said they could discuss peace with Germany just as soon as German forces were withdrawn from Poland. He also ignores the fact that the French and British had already been duped by Hitler's talks of peace at Munich the year before. They weren't falling for that again. It must also be noted that while Hitler was talking about peace with the western powers he was telling his generals to attack France by November 1939.
2) He ignores how the Luftwaffe was firebombing British cities during the Battle of Britain. They weren't dropping leaflets on London, they were dropping bombs. You can google the term "Blitz" right now and that famous picture of smoke rising over St. Paul's cathedral in London will immediately pop up.
3) His claim that the Germans didn't know what to do with all of those prisoners from their campaign into Russia is absolutely laughable. We have official OKW documents from 1941 explaining what the Einsatzgruppen were to do once they captured Soviet political prisoners - shoot them on sight. The Germans deliberately starved and murdered Red Army prisoners because they were Slavs and thus were seen as sub-human by the German state. None of this is hearsay. We have documented evidence from top German officials via official government memos that outlined these policies prior to Operation Barbarossa even beginning.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:08 am to LookSquirrel
A talented entertainer and huckster it seems
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:08 am to LookSquirrel
I might dive into his other podcasts, however his take on WW II is really distorted. I can get on board with any assertion that the Allies committed war crimes on their own. For instance, the firebombing of Dresden for openers. I can also understand that Churchill wasn't the icon that he's made out to be. Few are, and almost everyone is complex and can be "gray."
However, the Germans tried to make peace with the UK? Laughable, at best. They deliberately firebombed major UK cities and very much prepared for Operation Sea Lion, until they realized the Royal Navy and RAF would have shredded their convoys and supply lines. Then they took on the monumental task of opening an eastern front. I guess they would have preferred peace with Britain then?
I'll also say that Germany didn't get the most favorable peace terms at Versailles. Yet none of that would justify their evil, genocidal actions.
This guy can't possibly try to waltz around the German decision making at the Wannsee Conference, or their own despicable Akton T4 program, that targeted Germany's own civilians.
However, the Germans tried to make peace with the UK? Laughable, at best. They deliberately firebombed major UK cities and very much prepared for Operation Sea Lion, until they realized the Royal Navy and RAF would have shredded their convoys and supply lines. Then they took on the monumental task of opening an eastern front. I guess they would have preferred peace with Britain then?
I'll also say that Germany didn't get the most favorable peace terms at Versailles. Yet none of that would justify their evil, genocidal actions.
This guy can't possibly try to waltz around the German decision making at the Wannsee Conference, or their own despicable Akton T4 program, that targeted Germany's own civilians.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:34 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Roosevelt’s and Churchill’s dogged insistence on “unconditional surrender” with Germany without doubt prolonged the war. By 1943, an increasing number in the Wehrmacht high command were coming to the correct conclusion that German was not only going to lose the war but the Russians would not stop until they marched to the Brandenburg Gates. If the allies had been willingly to accept a negotiated peace with military factions opposed to Hitler, we very likely would have seen more military officers willingly to risk their neck in a putsch against Hitler. The insistence on “unconditional surrender” in many ways empowered Hitler and virtually ensured that Eastern Europe and much of Germany would be Sovietized.
Yup this is correct and also because of the many many communist sympathizers in both Britain and the US government as well as the institutions. They had a deeper plan which was to conquer and/or control the USA and I’d wager that they accomplished the control part a longggggg time ago. A country our size, with endless natural resources, an abundance of arable lands with oceans on both sides protecting it as well as an armed populace. The global elites could not allow that including the US elites.
And yes most of these communist sympathizers were Jewish JUST like the Bolsheviks were Jewish
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:35 am to Toomer Deplorable
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quote:The British were seriously compromised by Soviet agents and Soviet sympathizers. And it was true up and down the chain of command. The same was true of the Roosevelt administration. John le Carre based the main plot-line of his novel Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy on the “Cambridge Five” nest of Soviet spies. I recently rewatched Alec Guinness’ portrayal of George Smiley in the BBC adaptation of the novel. It is the greatest spy movie ever made: “It was a marvelous turn, old sport.”
Should be required viewing for students just as 1984, brave new world, among others should be required reading as it was when I was growing up
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 8:37 am
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:36 am to BluegrassCardinal
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I might dive into his other podcasts, however his take on WW II is really distorted.
Why would you waste your time?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:40 am to Sweep Da Leg
How idiotic.
Pershing wanted to march into Germany so Germany couldn't claim it never lost. Pershing wound up being right.
If the negotiated peace occurs in 43 as you favor, the Holocaust continues. We don't discover the concentration camps, shut them down, or hold anyone accountable.
Then there is the matter of de-Nazification. The party had too strong a hold on German politics as well as the country. Allies weren't going to allow Nazi party to even exist.
The allies had already faced a rearmed and resurgent Germany after it was supposedly beaten. Facing Germany in another 20 years was not going to happen.
Pershing wanted to march into Germany so Germany couldn't claim it never lost. Pershing wound up being right.
If the negotiated peace occurs in 43 as you favor, the Holocaust continues. We don't discover the concentration camps, shut them down, or hold anyone accountable.
Then there is the matter of de-Nazification. The party had too strong a hold on German politics as well as the country. Allies weren't going to allow Nazi party to even exist.
The allies had already faced a rearmed and resurgent Germany after it was supposedly beaten. Facing Germany in another 20 years was not going to happen.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:42 am to LookSquirrel
Absurd take on Churchill. The man carried a rifle in two wars, including WW1 when he was Lord of the Admirality. His brilliant plan to force the Dardanelles failed due to a faint hearted Captain. Churchill resigned his position, grabbed a rifle, and went to the front.
Churchill worked tirelessly to avoid the second WW. He was begging the previous governments to rearm as a deterrent to Hitler. The criticism that he could have made peace with Hitler is difficult to take seriously. Hitler was a serial violator of agreements. He used them, as did (does) Russia, to buy time. And there are approximately zero imperialistic military powers in history who simply stopped conquering after easy successes.
Cooper’s thesis ignores a vital point in Britain’s long held strategy. They believed, rightly, that if any power could gain hegemony over most of Europe that Britain would inevitably be conquered. So for hundreds of years the British foreign policy’s first rule was to keep this from happening. They fought european wars to contain France, Russia and Germany multiple times. They simply could not afford to make peace - in contravention of their treaties, BTW - with Hitler holding the industrial might of Europe.
Churchill worked tirelessly to avoid the second WW. He was begging the previous governments to rearm as a deterrent to Hitler. The criticism that he could have made peace with Hitler is difficult to take seriously. Hitler was a serial violator of agreements. He used them, as did (does) Russia, to buy time. And there are approximately zero imperialistic military powers in history who simply stopped conquering after easy successes.
Cooper’s thesis ignores a vital point in Britain’s long held strategy. They believed, rightly, that if any power could gain hegemony over most of Europe that Britain would inevitably be conquered. So for hundreds of years the British foreign policy’s first rule was to keep this from happening. They fought european wars to contain France, Russia and Germany multiple times. They simply could not afford to make peace - in contravention of their treaties, BTW - with Hitler holding the industrial might of Europe.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:44 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Roosevelt’s and Churchill’s dogged insistence on “unconditional surrender” with Germany without doubt prolonged the war. By 1943, an increasing number in the Wehrmacht high command were coming to the correct conclusion that German was not only going to lose the war but the Russians would not stop until they marched to the Brandenburg Gates.
If the allies had been willingly to accept a negotiated peace with military factions opposed to Hitler, we very likely would have seen more military officers willingly to risk their neck in a putsch against Hitler. The insistence on “unconditional surrender” in many ways empowered Hitler and virtually ensured that Eastern Europe and much of Germany would be Sovietized.
This is what happens when a previous world war ended in a negotiated peace and Germany refuses to accept they have been beaten, thus leading to a second and much larger war 20 years later. The Allies needed Germany to know that they had been beaten and the only way to do that was to occupy Berlin and let everyone in that city know that they lost.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:47 am to RollTide1987
I'm not sure I've ever been more discouraged. The right has gone completely insane giving lunatics like martyrmade the time of day or believing his utter nonsense.
I miss people like Andrew Breitbart and Rush so much.
I miss people like Andrew Breitbart and Rush so much.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:48 am to LookSquirrel
Ever since I watched Tucker licking Putin's boots he just looks small and sad.
The fight to stay remotely relevant is real for Tucker
The fight to stay remotely relevant is real for Tucker
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:49 am to Fun Bunch
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I'm not sure I've ever been more discouraged. The right has gone completely insane giving lunatics like martyrmade the time of day or believing his utter nonsense.
It's pretty bad. People who I used to respect have gone entirely off the deep end because they were lied to by the government about Covid. Now everything is suspect. I'm not saying don't have a questioning mind, but there are objective facts out there that can't be denied unless you twist/ignore the truth like Tucker's latest guest just did.
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