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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:02 pm to Sweep Da Leg
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No he’s NOT SAYOMG HITLER WAS A GOOD GUY JESUS!!! So fricking dense some of you or you’re being intentionally obtuse
What is he saying here?
Just wanted to edit to add the link in case anyone thinks this isn't real. (11k likes btw
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:13 pm to JoeHackett
He is saying Hitler is in hell with pedophiles.
What do you think he is saying?
What do you think he is saying?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:17 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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He is saying Hitler is in hell with pedophiles.
Oh really, that's interesting. What news needs to be broken to the Trump shooter?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:23 pm to JoeHackett
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Oh really, that's interesting. What news needs to be broken to the Trump shooter?
that's he's a baddie, too?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:23 pm to RollTide1987
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He twists the facts to suit his own conclusions. As I posted earlier in this thread, the man straight up ignores historical events to advance his thesis that Churchill was the chief villain of World War II
You are twisting the facts and his words. Cooper says Churchill was "A chief villain" and you say Cooper said "the chief villian" of WW2.
Do you see the difference? Cooper is saying Churchill was bloodthirsty for war. Right after the line you are misquoting, he says this:
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Churchill didn’t order the most deaths, oversee the most atrocities, or commit the worst crimes.
So, you are being intellectually dishonest in your argument. You claim he is twisting facts while you twist his words. Why dont you just refute his alleged facts with your own facts?
Its pretty funny to see the lefties and the neocons join together to shoot the messenger.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:26 pm to JoeHackett
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What news needs to be broken to the Trump shooter?
Well that tweet came the day after the assassination. So, maybe that he is dead and in hell. Not sure. What do you think it means?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:33 pm to dsides
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that's he's a baddie, too?
So in your mind this is how this goes?
Trump shooter finds himself in hell and walks around looking for Hitler.
Pedo #1 "How do we break the news to this new guy that Hitler is here?"
Pedo #2 "I don't know. Let's put our heads together and figure this out."
Trump shooter approaches pedos.
TS "Hey where's Hitler, I haven't seen him?"
Pedo #1 "Listen we need to tell you something."
Pedo #2 "Brace yourself"
Pedo #1 "Hitler is.... he's...."
Pedo #2 "Hitler's here somewhere, he's in hell with us"
TS "Oh shite, when I was walking around looking for him I had no idea I'd find the guy I was certain was in hell to actually be in hell. What surprising and hard to hear news. Thanks for figuring out a way to break this news to me pedos"
You guys are funny.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:36 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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So, maybe that he is dead and in hell.
Right so guy walking around hell thinks he's in heaven. And needs to be told this is in fact hell. That makes sense. You always hear people describing hell as a place very similar to heaven.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:36 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Churchill didn’t order the most deaths, oversee the most atrocities, or commit the worst crimes.
Stalin and Tojo were little different than Hitler in this area.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:43 pm to JoeHackett
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Trump shooter finds himself in hell and walks around looking for Hitler.
Pedo #1 "How do we break the news to this new guy that Hitler is here?"
Pedo #2 "I don't know. Let's put our heads together and figure this out."
Trump shooter approaches pedos.
TS "Hey where's Hitler, I haven't seen him?"
Pedo #1 "Listen we need to tell you something."
Pedo #2 "Brace yourself"
Pedo #1 "Hitler is.... he's...."
Pedo #2 "Hitler's here somewhere, he's in hell with us"
TS "Oh shite, when I was walking around looking for him I had no idea I'd find the guy I was certain was in hell to actually be in hell. What surprising and hard to hear news. Thanks for figuring out a way to break this news to me pedos"
You are trying way too hard. get back to work. somebody needs their venti double pump mocha latte
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:52 pm to dsides
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You are trying way too hard. get back to work. somebody needs their venti double pump mocha latte
Sorry. I did try too hard. It didn't occur to me that you thought someone in hell would confuse it for heaven.
I might go make some coffee.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:02 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Cooper says Churchill was "A chief villain" and you say Cooper said "the chief villian" of WW2.
He claims Churchill was "a" chief villain but then frames Churchill as "the" chief villain. What other conclusion can be drawn when you describe the Holocaust as a logistical problem, Churchill as the man who refused peace and the fall of the west a result of Churchill's insistence on continuing to fight?
Even if he's only wanting to assign some blame to Churchill for his failures, describing Churchill as "a" chief villain is insane. Hitler started the war, Hitler continued the war and Churchill helped end the war.
In Europe there's only one chief villain of WW2.
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Why dont you just refute his alleged facts with your own facts?
This is what Victor Davis Hanson had to say about Cooper's assertions.
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On Churchill, the Supposed Warmonger and Terrorist
Cooper describes Churchill as a supposed terrorist and warmonger. Yet in the dark days of late May and June 1940, to avoid factionalism among his new war cabinet, Churchill was willing to allow his colleagues temporarily to sound out peace possibilities through the intervention of Mussolini. But he darkly predicted that any ensuing humiliating Axis terms would likely shock even the more malleable and naive of his war cabinet.
In fact, by May 1940 Churchill had proved very magnanimous to the disgraced Chamberlain, whom he insisted stay on in his wartime cabinet, believing either that a naive or misguided Chamberlain might have sincerely sought to delay Hitler at Munich in order for Britain to find time to rearm, or blindly but genuinely thinking Hitler had no additional territorial agendas in Western Europe.
In any case, by May 1940, a once disgraced, chastised, and now far more realistic Chamberlain was well treated by an ally of Churchill and opposed any further obsequious concessions to Hitler. Chamberlain knew from bitter experience trusting Hitler would not bring peace but just guarantee war and a weaker and ultimately defeated Britain.
Churchill far more often blamed the earlier Stanley Baldwin government for Britain’s 1939–1940 predicament. It had stubbornly resisted and then delayed British rearmament in the foolish belief in either collective security, Hitler’s benign intentions toward Britain, or some sort of fantasy of redirecting Hitler permanently and exclusively eastward against Stalin.
In sum, Churchill was not eager for war, and on occasion expressed hope that Hitler would focus on rebuilding Germany, settle down, and stay within his borders. Nonetheless, throughout the late 1930s he had begged and cajoled the Baldwin, and later, the Chamberlain governments to rearm to the teeth to deter what he felt would be inevitable and destructive Nazi and Japanese offensive wars.
It is true Churchill wanted to preserve the British Empire at all costs. Yet integral to that strategy was rearming to a degree that would deter both Germany and Japan, given he privately grew despondent that post–Depression British financial and military weakness signaled to both Hitler and the Japanese that London would not be able to hold on to its empire or deter its enemies and thus would inevitably invite aggression.
So, if believing a strong military would deter Hitler and avoid war is somehow bellicose, then Churchill might conceivably have pleaded guilty.
As far as being a “terrorist,” Churchill soon and almost alone grasped the ultimate fantasies of Hitler’s planned genocide, world domination, the end of free nations, and a nightmarish global future. He had good reason for such pessimism after Hitler had once again, for the nth time, broken his word; he invaded Poland and began a policy of slaughtering civilians, and rounding up and murdering Jews. Most of his military planners realized after summer 1940 that the evacuated and depleted British army could not stop Hitler in Europe. Even the British fleet could not guarantee a successful blockade of German ports. That bleak reality left the RAF’s bomber command as the only tool to slow Hitler down.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:31 pm to RollTide1987
As an avid WW2 "fan boy", all my life, with many of my uncles still around, in my youth, who bore witness to these events in real time, and had viewpoints that were as varied as their service in the Army, Army Air Corp, Navy and Marines. I had 4 uncles from my Mother's side and 3 more from my Father's side. My Father was too young at the time and ended up in Saudi Arabia, as a Master Seargent in the newly formed "Air Force". Of the 5 that made it home alive and in one piece, (mostly), they tended not to speak much about it, except my favorite uncle, who was a Marine that fought his way across the Pacific, including at Guadalcanal. He liked his JAX Beer and could tell some great stories.
Anyway, some of these relatives would simply tell me not to believe everything I read.
There were stories of the time before, during and after that war that were not nice for polite society and for "some" prominent historians, going against the narrative could be career killers. We were mostly only allowed access to those types of historians, like our modern day "celebrity" historian, Ken Burns, for example.
All truth-tellers are denounced, and most end up destroyed. Truth seldom serves the agendas of powerful interests.
So, take that statement into account and consider the fate of some other authors, you may or may not have heard of, The ones that dared tell "their truth", as they saw it. David Irving, Ron Unz, A.J.P. Taylor, William Henry Chamberlin, to name a few.
I know many here are firmly entrenched in their views regarding the history we were sold in books, movies, documentaries etc. and that's great. But it should be reasonable to request we take the following snippet from the article below, before we condemn Tucker, Cooper AND Musk for expressing some new curiosity of such things We should applaud them for including US in this conversation. Especially as the drum beats of war get louder by the day, with a NEW Hitleresque leader on the way to help lather up our desire to "Save Democracy", and the World, one more time.
The Burning Platform published an article written by Paul Craig Roberts, tin 2020, titled;
Churchill’s War: The Real History of World War II
LINK
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Anyway, some of these relatives would simply tell me not to believe everything I read.
There were stories of the time before, during and after that war that were not nice for polite society and for "some" prominent historians, going against the narrative could be career killers. We were mostly only allowed access to those types of historians, like our modern day "celebrity" historian, Ken Burns, for example.
All truth-tellers are denounced, and most end up destroyed. Truth seldom serves the agendas of powerful interests.
So, take that statement into account and consider the fate of some other authors, you may or may not have heard of, The ones that dared tell "their truth", as they saw it. David Irving, Ron Unz, A.J.P. Taylor, William Henry Chamberlin, to name a few.
I know many here are firmly entrenched in their views regarding the history we were sold in books, movies, documentaries etc. and that's great. But it should be reasonable to request we take the following snippet from the article below, before we condemn Tucker, Cooper AND Musk for expressing some new curiosity of such things We should applaud them for including US in this conversation. Especially as the drum beats of war get louder by the day, with a NEW Hitleresque leader on the way to help lather up our desire to "Save Democracy", and the World, one more time.
The Burning Platform published an article written by Paul Craig Roberts, tin 2020, titled;
Churchill’s War: The Real History of World War II
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People in the Western world have been indoctrinated for 75 years into a white hat/black hat story of World War II that exonerates the “allies” and demonizes Hitler and Germany. To tell people, especially elderly ones whose memory of the war was formed by war propaganda, that the “allies” were as bad or worse war criminals than the Germans brings fire and brimestone down on one’s head.
LINK
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This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:05 pm to LookSquirrel
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The ones that dared tell "their truth", as they saw it.
So, in other words, fiction.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:18 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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What do you think he is saying?
I think its crystal clear that he's implying that the reason he can't find Hitler is because Hitler isn't in Hell.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:21 pm to 632627
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The ones that dared tell "their truth", as they saw it.
So, in other words, fiction.
How do you twist their truth into "fiction"?
NM, believe what you want and don't bother being the least bit curious after all the lies we know we have been told over the last few years about damn near everything.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:33 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Cooper says Churchill was "A chief villain" and you say Cooper said "the chief villian" of WW2.
He literally says in the interview with Tucker Carlson, and I quote: “I thought Churchill was the chief villain of World War II.”
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:44 pm to 632627
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The left is absolutely insane with their identity politics and craziness.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure the fringe right is any better.
What's scary is how so many people eat this crap up.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:47 pm to Don Johnson
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I think its crystal clear that he's implying that the reason he can't find Hitler is because Hitler isn't in Hell.
And the reason he has a hard time admitting he gets the joke is because it's so damning about this clown's worldview.
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