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re: The SPLC paid $70,000 to the leader of the American Nazi Party, then listed him as

Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by ThoUpOrange
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:13 pm to
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laughs in mob boss snitches


reddit just oozes out of every fiber of your being
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38073 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Elon and Charlie Kirk warned about the SPLC for years… Everyone called them crazy.

And now Charlie is dead and I'm honestly surprised they haven't offed Musk yet.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:14 pm to
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reddit just oozes out of every fiber of your being


I petition the OT mods to change his username to SFPLC
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:16 pm to
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Oh like hell if you didn't.

I didn't. you're confusing comments.

I know what I said. I can clarify it for you:

You're conflating me talking about the SPLC coordinating with a misdemeanor theft and me saying they'd be prosecuted for that theft.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:16 pm to
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reddit just oozes out of every fiber of your being


Other than looking up a movie review, game question, or other random fact on non-political forums, I never go to reddit. I don't post on reddit, either.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:18 pm to
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I'm very anti-Leftist.


quote:

SlowFlowPro


Posted by AlterEd
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Member since Dec 2024
12060 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:20 pm to
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You're conflating me talking about the SPLC coordinating with a misdemeanor theft and me saying they'd be prosecuted for that theft.



Oh, so to clarify, you're saying that they paid for someone to commit a crime but that they won't even be prosecuted for it. Got it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:20 pm to
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SPLC needs both to sustain the activities of hate groups and to give them credibility sufficient to drive donations and SPLC's continued existence.

But this "sustain" narrative doesn't fit with the examples we have, like the one in OP. By the time the SPLC was paying him, he had no organization to support, from what I can tell, at that point in his life. If he didn't have an org, then he pocketed all the money.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Oh, so to clarify, you're saying that they paid for someone to commit a crime but that they won't even be prosecuted for it. Got it.


Already covered (in another thread)

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I'm just not being pedantic about what appears to be the one illegal behavior that was coordinated by the SPLC, to give the dog a bone
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42157 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:25 pm to
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So they paid him to snitch, then used the information he gave them to expose both him and his organization.

This is the FBI playbook. They did the same thing to the Klan in the 1960's. Half of the folks at a Klan rally between Virginia and Texas back then were either being paid as informants or were Feds themselves.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:31 pm to
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Libs on Facebook are saying this is all fake news.


SFPLC is fighting for SPLC on Facebook too? Dude loves him some leftist organizations
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4418 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:33 pm to
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What leftist stances of any organization have I defended on this board?



Any commentary about the substance of the actual indictment is defense of leftists because it might reveal the shoddy work done by the "excellent" leaders of this iteration FBI and DOJ.

Same issue the true believers have with the tariffs. Trump wanted to do it unilateraly outside Congress, told his people to do that, and they went with a statute that doesn't support the position at all. Then when the substance is actually examined under the law, turns out, it was shite work and shouldn't have been used.

It wasn't that their legal reasoning sucked, any criticism of it is viewed as "anti-trump" .

Nuance is not a real thing on the Poli board ha.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:34 pm to
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But this "sustain" narrative doesn't fit with the examples we have
From your "Do I need to get AI to run a grammar check" thread
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Gemini:

Q: In the DOJ indictment against SPLC, is there any reference to a snitch? Did any SPLC funding pass through informants to the groups themselves? If so is this how a snitch operates?

A:
The recent Department of Justice (DOJ) indictment against the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), filed in April 2026, refers to paid confidential informants and "field sources". It does not use the colloquial term "snitch."

In a traditional law enforcement setting, a confidential informant (or "field source") is someone who provides information about a crime to stop it. What the DOJ alleges in the April 2026 indictment of the SPLC is a transformation of that role into something much more legally dangerous.

1. The Legal Line: Informant vs. Funder
Under federal guidelines, an informant is strictly prohibited from providing "any item, service, or expertise that is necessary for the commission of an offense" unless explicitly authorized by the government to sustain an undercover operation.

The DOJ alleges the SPLC crossed this line in three ways:
Direct Subsidies: By paying high-ranking leaders of extremist groups (like the neo-Nazi National Alliance), the SPLC allegedly provided the capital these leaders needed to keep their organizations alive.

Facilitating Crimes: The indictment claims SPLC funds were used by these informants to help facilitate both state and federal crimes.

Logistical Support: In the case of the Charlottesville rally, the DOJ alleges an SPLC informant didn't just report on the planning—they used SPLC money to coordinate transportation for other extremists to get to the rally.

2. Is this how a "snitch" operates?
No.
In the eyes of the DOJ, the SPLC's "field sources" (the "Fs") moved from being passive observers to active participants or "agents provocateurs".
A "Snitch" typically gives up information to save themselves or for a small reward; they do not usually receive $270,000 to $1,000,000 over several years to remain active in a group.

The Alleged Scheme: The DOJ’s theory is that the SPLC was "manufacturing racism to justify its existence". By funding these leaders, they allegedly ensured the "threat" remained active, which in turn allowed the SPLC to raise more money from donors.

Summary of the DOJ's Logic
The indictment argues that because the SPLC is a civilian non-profit, it had no legal authority to authorize these informants to engage in or fund criminal activity. While a government agency like the FBI has strict "Otherwise Illegal Activity" (OIA) protocols to manage such risks, the SPLC allegedly bypassed all legal oversight by using shell companies like "Fox Photography" to move the money secretly.

In short: A snitch tells on the group; the DOJ alleges the SPLC’s informants were bankrolling the group.


Hope that helps
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87385 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:37 pm to
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But this "sustain" narrative doesn't fit with the examples we have, like the one in OP. By the time the SPLC was paying him, he had no organization to support, from what I can tell, at that point in his life. If he didn't have an org, then he pocketed all the money.



And they simultaneously used him as a fundraising boogeyman? To what end? What could they possibly be learning?

Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19988 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:38 pm to
Slow,

Several posts but you have yet to show he was a "snitch". Did he give some secret list of terrorist acts they had performed?

Posting information that is in the public domain isnt worthy of payment. However, paying him to continue his rhetoric is, and thats what this was.

Now whats next? It isnt wire fraud because they used cell phones for payments so no wires were involved.........
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87385 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:41 pm to
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but cell phone interactions/transactions are definitely prosecuted as wire fraud all the time
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:49 pm to
And the alleged wire fraud is based on the allegations that they defrauded their donors.

The banking stuff is separate and much stronger. I'll just repeat that again.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25860 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:53 pm to
So SPLC paid him to snitch so they could expose him and his groups. But everything you quoted from the article is statements he made in public speeches, websites, or interviews.

What info did SPLC supposedly expose about the guy that they had to pay him $70K for the info? All SPLC did was take a bunch of things the guy said in various public forums or settings and compile it into one place. Still not seeing a reasonable justification for them paying him when they seemingly could have gotten the info for free.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:59 pm to
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So SPLC paid him to snitch
That is SFP's personal assumption
quote:

In the eyes of the DOJ, the SPLC's "field sources" (the "Fs") moved from being passive observers to active participants or "agents provocateurs".

A "Snitch" typically gives up information to save themselves or for a small reward; they do not usually receive $270,000 to $1,000,000 over several years to remain active in a group.

The Alleged Scheme: The DOJ’s theory is that the SPLC was "manufacturing racism to justify its existence". By funding these leaders, they allegedly ensured the "threat" remained active, which in turn allowed the SPLC to raise more money from donors.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28181 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 2:03 pm to
You gotta wonder if he's really paid by the post.

I'll fully admit I do go into leftist spaces to do a bit of trolling/fact checking, but maybe a dozen posts a month.

This guy hangs around a board that actively hates him, often to the tune of hundreds of posts a day, all while claiming he's some super busy lawyer.

If I billed lawyer rates for my time, I wouldn't be posting hundreds of posts a day. My time would be too valuable to waste on the unwashed idiotic masses.

Now, if I were a 90 IQ idiot who constantly gets owned, I might supplement my closer to minimum wage level income with being a punching bag on a popular political forum.
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