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re: The Shooting of Michael Brown: Focus on the Police State; NOT racism
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:44 am to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:44 am to SpidermanTUba
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Dude are you white? If so I wouldn't really worry. For white boys the cops have tear gas, tazers, rubber bullets, and maybe a good old fashioned billy club every now and then (but not enough to mess up your mug too bad).
"Police state? Nah, don't worry about it LOOK OVER THERE YOU GUYS! OMG WAS THAT A WHITE SUPREMACIST?! OMG LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT INSTEAD!"
signed,
Bootlicker, sneakily trying to defend his overlords thru misdirection
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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never forget Boston
When are talking about? The man hunt?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Its getting real in Ferguson right now.....
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:57 am to fleaux
More everything. I'm hearing helicopters and tanks last night, but don't know how accurate. #Ferguson on twitter will catch you up.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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i've heard it's a lot cheaper to leave, blow up, and make more than to ship back stateside
A lot of it was left overseas. But there is still a lot of MRAPS here stateside. 10s of thousands in mothballs in fact. The military has decided it doesn't want to keep these on the books. They were built specifically for Iraq and Afghanistan. They are extremely heavy and a logistical burden. The military still plans and trains for a conventional fight, which MRAPS are pretty much useless in. So the government is selling used gear to local police departments. Now I'm sure the MIC is getting some lucrative maintenance and training contracts out of it though.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:33 am to Negative Nomad
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There is no police state
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:39 am to Sentrius
It began with the California bank robbery years ago. Cops completely outgunned. Won't happen again.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:39 am to fleaux
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More looting??
frick the looters. I understand the anger toward the police, but stealing from your fellow citizens is not the answer. I'm not at all concerned with what happens to people that use the chaos to steal.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:43 am to SlowFlowPro
The riot defenders are coming out:
And it's funny how the familiar names of the Trayvon case have started to pop up again. Here's our old friend Skolnik:
Not to mention the kid's parents just retained the same lawyer that Trayvon's parents had.
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@edeweysmith: It's hard to control the emotions of a people who've been consistently dehumanized & disenfranchised! #Ferguson #MikeBrown
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@CandiceBenbow: "Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots....
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@marclamonthill: I'm amazed at all the people who are "outraged" and "disgusted" at the loss of property, yet don't lose any sleep over a dead teenager.
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@marclamonthill: I don't endorse the riots in Ferguson. Again, I think they instigate State violence. But I won't spend a minute criticizing people's anger.
And it's funny how the familiar names of the Trayvon case have started to pop up again. Here's our old friend Skolnik:
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@MichaelSkolnik: "A riot is the language of the unheard." ~Martin Luther King, Jr. #Ferguson
Not to mention the kid's parents just retained the same lawyer that Trayvon's parents had.
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@attorneycrump: Media Advisory: Family of Michael Brown Retains National Civil Rights Attorney, Benjamin Crump, in MO Shooting Death.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:54 am to onmymedicalgrind
No police state looks like this maybe?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:56 am to SpidermanTUba
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You forgot to ad mental health status in there.
you are right
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Its important when we think of the Keith Vidal case that we keep in mind his murder had nothing to do with the fact he was schizophrenic (right).
and what about the case i posted earlier about a crazy white kid who was killed by cops after his parents called them to help?
obviously about race, right?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:58 am to Rickety Cricket
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The riot defenders are coming out:
I will say this, not so much as a defense, but as a point in opposition. The STL county police chief repeated the Ferguson police account of the incident verbatim as the gospel truth. He then proceeded to say that Ferguson obviously didn't have anything to hide as evidenced by the fact that they were brought in to investigate quickly (despite no statement being made by police for almost 24 hours). And then the Ferguson police chief says that the investigation from the county PD will be transparent and totally unbiased.
It strains credulity.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:59 am to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:59 am to SpidermanTUba
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You're potentially risking the lives of every other bystander. You're also potentially saving the lives of every other bystander. Trouble is its kinda hard to tell which is which without hindsight.
and what does this have to do with choosing to resist an arrest or run from cops? nothing
if you engage in THOSE behaviors, understand you're putting your life at risk. that's the point
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You can't play if you can't pay Its a straight up criminalization of poverty.
if they go through "the system" they have to pay probationary fees on the back end. you will pay that money one way or another
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:00 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Its getting real in Ferguson right now.....
i saw last night that the riots were starting. it's still going?
nothing says justice like stealing from local store owners, many of whom in that area i'd imagine are minorities
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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if you engage in THOSE behaviors, understand you're putting your life at risk. that's the point
I'm not sure the police have a good idea of what "resisting" is. In the case of Luis Rodriguez (Oklahoma) and Eric Garner, I believe they felt that a person who was struggling to breathe was resisting arrest.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:03 am to the808bass
i've only seen videos of garner, and he resisted. i think i posted the video on page 2 of this thread
what he did, i suggest none of you ever do if you're being arrested by police
what he did, i suggest none of you ever do if you're being arrested by police
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
But he was only, in my mind, technically resisting. He didn't swing on a cop. He didn't run. He was arguing. If that's worthy of a "resisting" charge, then I'd argue that the resisting charge is meaningless.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:08 am to the808bass
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He didn't swing on a cop.
battery on a police officer
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He didn't run.
flight from an officer
those each have their own charge
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He was arguing. If that's worthy of a "resisting" charge, then I'd argue that the resisting charge is meaningless.
he did more than argue. when they went in to cuff him, he turned around, refused to let them cuff him, and then pulled his arm back
don't do THAT
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