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The real question regarding the shot down plane

Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:37 pm
Why in the frick was civilian air traffic even taking place?

They were all flying just as normal

I realize it's Iran and all. But sheesh. Grounding civilian air traffic when your country is on alert for incoming attacks seems like a decision your average 10 year old could make

Yet nobody in the press seems to even be asking the question

I would like to emphasize that I'm not implying some sort of conspiracy. I just personally think it's a good example of the possibility that the Iranian leaders Hammond had a very good hold on really running the country.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:41 pm to
So as a cover story? They planned to take out that particular flight because of passenger list.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19876 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:43 pm to
Who would get on the plane????
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:43 pm to
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They planned to take out that particular flight because of passenger list.


Canadians of Persian descent. One of them knew too much and/or was a Canadian spy. Interesting take.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:43 pm to
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Yet nobody in the press seems to even be asking the question



I just saw a comment from a reasonable guy stating that the US or Israel had shot down the plane because reasons, and Iran had been told to shut up and accept the blame and international fall out, or Israel would nuke them.

Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:45 pm to
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Grounding civilian air traffic when your country is on alert for incoming attacks seems like a decision your average 10 year old could make

the decision to ground air traffic at Tehran international airport would have been reported immediately

but why would they have been on alert for incoming aircraft attack? They would know it was coming well before any planes got over the airport. If the reporting is true and the US basically allowed the missile strike, who was going to attack them?
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

I just saw a comment from a reasonable guy stating that the US or Israel had shot down the plane because reasons, and Iran had been told to shut up and accept the blame and international fall out, or Israel would nuke them.


This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
40733 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:52 pm to
This is tin foil hat stuff. If the Iranians wanted to whack someone on the plane they would have simply grabbed them at the airport, drug them behind the building and put a bullet in their head.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

This is tin foil hat stuff. If the Iranians wanted to whack someone on the plane they would have simply grabbed them at the airport, drug them behind the building and put a bullet in their head.


Right. And avoided the shame of having to say they accidentally shot down a commercial flight.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:57 pm to
Yeah I'd imagine the Iranians would have greatly preferred that this plane not be shot down. Very much so.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:59 pm to
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it's Iran
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48634 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:59 pm to
ya think? LOL
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36475 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:01 pm to
Meaning twas never intended, B. Not by the government anyway. JMO. It's hard to track from moment to moment, but I don't think my opinion is the popular one.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38395 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Why in the frick was civilian air traffic even taking place?


I’d want to GTFO too, to be fairrrrrrrrrrr
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

This is tin foil hat stuff.

oh yeah no doubt

quote:

If the Iranians wanted to whack someone on the plane they would have simply grabbed them at the airport, drug them behind the building and put a bullet in their head.


maybe one slipped on the plane and they found out right after it took off, they would've been distracted at the time,
But you know, the truth is that somebody thought it was one of the US B52's stationed in the Indian Ocean. But what good is the internet if we can't entertain conspiracy theories?
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8008 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:25 pm to


Because Iran is a dysfunctional country.

The airport should have been closed or at least all air traffic stopped. No one on the military or revolutionary guard side thought of doing that. Lucky just one plan was shot down. Major screw up by any modern country.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:29 pm to
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Grounding civilian air traffic when your country is on alert for incoming attacks seems like a decision your average 10 year old could make 


Glad the US doesn't ground air traffic every time we go on alert.

The real question is who was on the plane that they murdered with that attack.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109093 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:31 pm to
Did any other planes take off from that airport that evening without getting shot down?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36475 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:35 pm to
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Glad the US doesn't ground air traffic every time we go on alert.

I can understand that. But here they had a situation of outbound missiles and jury was still out as to what may be coming back inbound. Hell, all things considered, it really wasn't unreasonable to believe all out war may be happening. So in this situation I feel like grounding all commercial air traffic should have occurred.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7868 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:38 pm to
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They planned to take out that particular flight because of passenger list.

While I consider this a possibility, I find this board's willingness to jump on this as the "obvious reason" for the downing to be one of the worst aspects of the mentality on here. Conspiracies should always be considered, and skepticism of 'official' accounts can be healthy... but goddamned, people???

Occam's Razor clearly points to a trigger-happy SAM crew, a couple or so hours after Iran hit Iraq (so thus on-edge), and a passenger aircraft taking off at an inopportune time... and being accidentally shot down.

Why choose an elaborate conspiracy requiring the murder of 175 people and two countries furious at Iran, when the incompetence of trigger-happy / nervous government employees makes far more sense?
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 2:41 pm
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