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re: The official 14 point US-Iran MoU deal has been released
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:49 pm to Schleynole
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:49 pm to Schleynole
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They're leaders are more radical than the previous leaders and the previous leaders were the leading sponsor of terror around the world. Why would we want them to be rich?
What? Which leaders are you referring to? And again…if you don’t think sponsoring terror will be part of the stipulations, I can’t help you. It’s kind of one of the bigger points of the entire operation. I can’t understand it for you.
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We claimed the nuclear threat was done. We clearly lied then or lied in February.
Either that or he got faulty intel and pivoted. Either way…unless your going for a “he lied” gotcha….what’s your point?
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We'll see
Precisely the reason you should stop clutching your pearls. There is a ton still to be negotiated.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:50 pm to Taxing Authority
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Money is fungible. Even if it doesn’t go there, it frees up other funds to go there.
Literally the MAGA argument about the "pallets of cash" of $1.7B for 10+ years
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:51 pm to BBONDS25
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If the argument here is that Iran will renege on a deal….then there isn’t any deal that would make you happy. It requires a ground war. Is that what you’re advocating?
I'm advocating not starting this pointless war that puts Iran in a better position afterwards for a pinky swear we know they will break.
We had them in a worse position in January with sanctions and no SOH threat.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:55 pm to COAUTiger
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Now look who is assuming? Why not mention them as well as the US and other countries to be added later?
I’m not assuming a thing. I’m repeating what Vance stated would happen.
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Also, let's not forget their nuclear program is status quo.
Until the final agreement when they will forever abandon it.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:56 pm to JimEverett
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Not trying to be pedantic, but what paragraph references financing?
Good catch. I must be remembering what Vance said. If what he said turns out to not be true, I will be very disappointed. If what he said comes to fruition….i fail to understand the pearl clutching.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm advocating not starting this pointless war that puts Iran in a better position afterwards for a pinky swear we know they will break.
We had them in a worse position in January with sanctions and no SOH threat.
Wasn't Iran behind the attack on Israel?
I am not arguing that this war was a good decision. But the idea that Iran was neutered or even close to being neutered seems a strech. I would say they had proven more than capable of aving the resources to be a very bad actor even with the sanctions.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:57 pm to BBONDS25
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Reports from who? They haven’t received a dime yet.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. I mean everyone if they are being honest knows where this is going
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:57 pm to BBONDS25
quote:You like the deal? Its mot OMB, it's more like OMS(soft).
Step 2: ok there is a deal, but it’s awful. Iran won. OMB. (This is where you currently reside).
We bombed the shite out of them. Why are we helping them, like never before, so we can stop bombing them?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:58 pm to hawgfaninc
Reads like an agreement to agree to a final agreement in 60 days, if that ever happens. Iran talks out there a$$.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:58 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Why do they need to loan them money, ”in exchange” for something we’ve already destroyed. Twice.
The neighboring states sure seem willing to make these loans in exchange for an Iran with no nuclear weapon program.
quote:Like they were “taxing” before we attacked?
Nope. With assurances that Iran will never try to tax ships going through again.
quote:Link?
I sure do bet there is a little bit about China in the stipulations.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:58 pm to hawgfaninc
more fake bullshite
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:59 pm to JimEverett
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Wasn't Iran behind the attack on Israel?
The October 7 attacks?
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But the idea that Iran was neutered or even close to being neutered seems a strech. I would say they had proven more than capable of aving the resources to be a very bad actor even with the sanctions.
I never said they were neutered.
Without sanctions they will have exponentially more money to sponsor terror, too.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:00 pm to ninthward
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more fake bullshite
This is confirmed
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:00 pm to pitchandcatch27
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Reads like an agreement to agree to a final agreement
That’s why it’s a MOU and not an agreement.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:00 pm to BBONDS25
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They get loans from their neighbors.
I don't think it's even loans. JD said "investments".
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:02 pm to Schleynole
quote:Pre-dates that Apparently the Whotehpuse (2025) claims the Whitehouse (2026) is fake news. LINK
We claimed the nuclear threat was done. We clearly lied then or lied in February.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:04 pm to loogaroo
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I don't think it's even loans. JD said "investments".
Is a loan not an investment?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:06 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Is a loan not an investment?
True, but JD specifically said investments like powerplants.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:09 pm to BBONDS25
Yea except for point 10 which allows Iran to freely export oil upon the signing of the MOU (this is basically a lifting of sanctions), and point 11 which allows the unfreezing of Iranian funds during negotiations. In turn we get nothing unless a final deal is reached.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:10 pm to JimEverett
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Wasn't Iran behind the attack on Israel?
What does that matter? That wasn't the adminstration's justification for the Iran bullshite... it was "They can never have a nuclear weapon". Which, once again, we were told that the June 2025 bombing obliterated their nuclear programs.
So were they lying then or lying now?
The goal posts have moved so many times on this bullshite, its fricking comical. Trump got swindled into something with no way out and now has egg all over him.
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