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re: The official 14 point US-Iran MoU deal has been released
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:11 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:11 pm to hawgfaninc
I am done with Trump. This deal is shite and we basically went to war and destroyed the economy just to put Iran on more solid financial footing in exchange for no more than a promise to not pursue nukes
I will be abstaining from voting the next few cycles at least. frick all of this. Tired of being betrayed by shite leadership
I will be abstaining from voting the next few cycles at least. frick all of this. Tired of being betrayed by shite leadership
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:13 pm to Adam Banks
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I mean everyone if they are being honest knows where this is going
Do tell.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:15 pm to Jake88
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You like the deal?
If it is completed the way Vance said it would, then yes. I don’t know how anyone can have a definitive opinion at this point. It’s the equivalent of an LOI right now. Still a ton to negotiate.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:15 pm to deltaland
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and destroyed the economy
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:17 pm to BBONDS25
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. I don’t know how anyone can have a definitive opinion at this point
Of course you do. It’s easy
1) they’re stupid
2) their definitive opinion was prepackaged the minute this operation started
3) some combination of 1&2.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:17 pm to Taxing Authority
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Why do they need to loan them money, ”in exchange” for something we’ve already destroyed. Twice.
Because we clearly haven’t. Either Trump lied when he said that or he had faulty intel. Seems very disingenuous to constantly go for gotchas when talking about the efficacy of this preliminary agreement.
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Like they were “taxing” before we attacked?
Read what I wrote. They won’t be threatening that again.
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Link?
I know you’re smart enough to know what a MOU is and how much is left to be negotiated. Disappointing to see you argue from such a disingenuous position. Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:18 pm to BBONDS25
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I mean everyone if they are being honest knows where this is going Do tell.
They are going to rebuild the Iranian military with state of the art equipment and once they feel secure they are going to go to enriching uranium
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:19 pm to deltaland
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This deal is shite
You have no clue if it’s shite. It is a promise to stop fighting while they negotiate toward those very broad goals the next 60 days. My goodness…the Panicans are so soft.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:19 pm to Adam Banks
You can build a lot of labs even deeper in the mountains with $400B
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:20 pm to Adam Banks
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They are going to rebuild the Iranian military with state of the art equipment and once they feel secure they are going to go to enriching uranium
If you are of this opinion there is literally no deal ever that should be made with Iran. Is that your assertion?
Also. You think those 20 helicopters make them secure? From the US?
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
Even deeper!
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You can build a lot of labs even deeper in the mountains with $400B
Where is this $400B going to come from?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:21 pm to Pettifogger
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killing the people who directed targets be put on Americans' backs is completely in-bounds.
America overthrows the popularly elected gov’t that tried to nationalize their oil and installs a brutal dictator. That guy gets overthrown. We can’t understand why Iranians chant ‘death to America’.
America funds Saddam Hussein’s war against Iran where chemical weapons were used. We create a civil war in Iraq pitting Shia against Sunni. We can’t understand why Iran is supporting the Shia insurgents.
And yes, no matter what the rationale, killing people in an undeclared war is murder. Pure and simple. If you think you can make a criminal case, arrest them or try them in absentia.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:22 pm to deltaland
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I am done with Trump.
Outside of declaring this on a message board, what does this mean?
That's what I can never quite figure out.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:22 pm to loogaroo
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Where is this $400B going to come from?
Countries who have proven they can't do anything to Iran if Iran gives them the middle finger after spending it
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this pointless war that puts Iran in a better position afterwards
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:22 pm to Aubie Spr96
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And yes, no matter what the rationale, killing people in an undeclared war is murder.
We haven’t had a declared war since 1943. Moron.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:23 pm to BBONDS25
Any deal that ends with Iran having $300 billion is a bad deal.
You might say that they will never deal otherwise well that’s what everyone with sense said hence why you don’t go there unless you are ready to really act.
You might say that they will never deal otherwise well that’s what everyone with sense said hence why you don’t go there unless you are ready to really act.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:24 pm to Adam Banks
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Any deal that ends with Iran having $300 billion is a bad deal.
*$400B
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