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re: The narrative about cities turning into shite holes

Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:29 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139679 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:29 am to
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Are you claiming the entire city of New Orleans is a shithole?


I'm not ""claiming"" anything. I am citing facts in print.

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That reputation doesn’t mean my neighborhood is a shithole
No. But assuming it isn't, it does pique interest as to why your neighborhood gets preferential treatment, rendering it perfectly safe and pristine, within the nation's most dangerous urban surrounds. How does that happen?

Good for your for living in a great spot. But as someone continually boosting the plight of the underserved, that personal safety differential is a bit ironical.

This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 8:31 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:04 am to
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What do you think white flight is? White people eunning away from other white people?

Do you constantly just make things up? The era that book was written about is defined by every other historian as a white exodus from shithole areas. The whites left behind didnt have the means or desire to exit.
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The white flight, also known as white exodus, is the sudden or gradual large-scale migration of white people from areas becoming more racially or ethnoculturally diverse. Starting in the 1950s and 1960s, the terms became popular in the United States. They referred to the large-scale migration of people of European ancestry from racially mixed urban regions to more racially homogeneous suburban or exurban regions.

Why do you think the US has the The Fair Housing Act (1968), The Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974, The Home Mortgage Disclosure Act of 1975, Section 8 housing? They are forcing other cultures into the suburbs for the specific purpose of destroying white flight from "culcha"
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
4252 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:07 am to
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No. But assuming it isn't, it does pique interest as to why your neighborhood gets preferential treatment, rendering it perfectly safe and pristine, within the nation's most dangerous urban surrounds. How does that happen?

Good for your for living in a great spot. But as someone continually boosting the plight of the underserved, that personal safety differential is a bit ironical.


You won't get an honest answer, but good work on feeding the sociopath's need for attention.

The real answer is, like every other Progressive, they do everything they can to avoid living directly in the fruits of their ideology. They want to force YOU into living in these areas, especially when they elect leaders that are forcing section 8 into your neighborhood. Then, when the inevitable chaos begins, they get to virtue signal again by calling you a "racist" for pointing out the crimes being committed, then blame YOU for said crime.

It is a win win for these sick assholes.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4882 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:27 am to
Name any town in the US with a subway system where a young female would be advised to ride the subway alone at night? There are none.
And as far as an 18 yr old girl walking around at night....only in upper middle class suburb would this be safe.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6232 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 11:07 am to
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Your failure to understand simple words and sentences is a YOU problem


No. The fact that you blamed suburbs for not housing homeless in the suburbs when those suburbs answer to a unified government is a YOU problem. It is a YOU problem because you refuse to understand that suburbs do not govern themselves in most cases. Is why some choose to secede from unified government.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139679 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 12:44 pm to
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Something worth noting is that many (if not most) suburbs actively refuse to open shelters or provide services for homeless individuals. As a result, homeless people are often forced to travel to the nearest urban center in order to access shelter, food assistance, or social services.
Perhaps. But it certainly is not that simple.

Though there are laws on the books to reduce public vagrancy, all too often, those laws are unenforced. That, combined with behavioral incentives (food monetary supplements, etc) unpinned to behavior correction, tolerance of public illegal acts (nudity, defecation, drug use, panhandling, nuisance, etc), and so forth lend to increased urban visibility and decreased safety which is not present in the suburbs.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38438 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:16 pm to
My boss and a few coworkers are in Memphis. They say it's a shithole. Not just parts of it. ALL of it.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42877 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:55 pm to
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Three people were shot during an early morning shooting in New York City’s iconic Times Square and police have detained a 17-year-old suspect.

The gunfire erupted in the gun-free zone near the intersection of 44th Street and 7th Avenue – just feet from the Hard Rock Café and Carmine's Italian Restaurant -- at around 1:20 a.m. sending people running for cover.

An 18-year-old woman and two men aged 19 and 65 were injured in the shooting, police told Fox News Digital.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/3-shot-times-square-17-year-old-suspect-detained-after-late-night-dispute
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8850 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:35 pm to
Most dem controlled cities are cesspools.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61751 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:25 pm to
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Though there are laws on the books to reduce public vagrancy, all too often, those laws are unenforced.


Making homelessness illegal makes no sense.

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which is not present in the suburbs.

Because they drop their homeless off in the nearest city, most likely.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:27 pm to
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even New Orleans, which has many legitimate problems, isn’t close to as bad as portrayed.


I don’t know man, every time I go to New Orleans I’m disappointed and disgusted. That city is an absolute shithole. I don’t know if that means every other big city is turning into a shithole but New Orleans definitely is and I seriously doubt it’s going to get better any time soon.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61751 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:29 pm to
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The fact that you blamed suburbs for not housing homeless i


There was no blame. You’re using emotionally charged language and I’m not sure why.

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because you refuse to understand that suburbs do not govern themselves in most cases


Who governs suburbs? Jupiter? DC? My goodness they are governed by their parish/county if they haven’t incorporated.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14914 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:35 pm to
NYC was definitely worse when I went there in 2024 compared to 2012. San Diego has gone downhill since 2010. Homeless people everywhere. You can still have a good time in these places but the vibe has changed.

New Orleans has always been a shite show. It’s just slightly deadlier the last 10 years.
Posted by LuckyTiger57
Member since Dec 2015
1726 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:36 pm to
It’s worse than it’s portrayed.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15429 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:37 pm to
It’s the trashy areas lol. Ghetto fatigue
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61751 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:40 pm to
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New Orleans has always been a shite show. It’s just slightly deadlier the last 10 years.


This is objectively false.

This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 9:43 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61751 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:49 pm to
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shithole. I don’t know if that means every other big city is turning into a shithole but New Orleans definitely is


Did you ever go to New Orleans before 2006? And you think it’s much worse now?

Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:54 pm to
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Did you ever go to New Orleans before 2006? And you think it’s much worse now?


Yeah all the time. It’s definitely worse now. That place sucks balls.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61751 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:04 pm to
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I'm not ""claiming"" anything. I am citing facts in print.


You didn’t. You’re making claims and then making vague references to facts that you are not citing.

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No. But assuming it isn't, it does pique interest as to why your neighborhood gets preferential treatment,


It doesn’t. New Orleans isn’t a shithole. I’m not claiming to live In the only non-shite neighborhood. I’m saying I live in a typical neighborhood in the city.

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within the nation's most dangerous urban
?? I don’t live in Detroit or St. Louis.

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How does that happen?

Your claim is false. I live in a typical urban neighborhood in New Orleans. People litter and I hate that but litter isn’t gun shots.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:07 pm to
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I don’t know man, every time I go to New Orleans I’m disappointed and disgusted.


I feel that way every time i come to this website but you don’t see me whining about it constantly, now do you?
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