re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

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Why do we have to intervene?

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9/11 much?

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Why can’t Israel handle business?

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Are the terrorists only interested in Israel or more than that? We're expecting Israel to 100% handle OUR terrorist problem?

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Do we have the right to protect our way of life?


Does Iran?

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I hardly believe Iran is protecting their way of life with the Charlie Hebdo explosion, the lone wolf terrorists driving vehicles through crowds of innocent people, sending suicide bombers among crowds of innocent civilians, providing missiles and drones for the Houthis to attack international shipping, blowing up crowded train stations and killing scores of people, issuing a Fatwa against a book author, taking hostages and cutting off their heads for the world to see. The list goes on and on. Their way of life is the way of death for those who do not share their fanaticism. Evil like that must be eradicated.

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It is a fact that Islamic terrorism constantly works to destroy anything not Islamic. That includes America. That is a brute fact. We have enemies who want to destroy us. We either fight them there or fight them here. Thats is a brute fact

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Then why aren't we deporting every single Muslim here and tearing down every mosque? Why are we still allowing Muslims to emigrate here? Seems counterproductive does it not?

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To think that is something that can be accomplished is extremely naive

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Who said anything about this?

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All you’ll do going over there is create more

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This has got to be one of the stupidest arguments of all time.

1. Terrorists attack anyone and everyone
2. Some people fight back
3. "YOU'RE MAKING IT WORSE"

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We had a 20 year war on terror and an act that craps all over your privacy, and they are still around

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None of this has anything to do with the justification for fighting Islamic terrorism

What is wrong with you people?

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Whatever you think about Israel is irrelevant. This has nothing to do with warmongers or neocons or warhawks or Zionism or any of that nonsense

Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. They will attack anyone, anywhere at anytime, including civilians. Something that doesn't get discussed much is that many Iranians celebrate these attacks, especially on Americans/America. That sentiment needs to be pounded into submission with impunity. Don't talk to me about "innocent" people. If they were innocent, they would have rebelled against the Islamic regime. Iran seeking a nuclear weapon is just ADDED incentive to get the job done

Here are FACTS

1. America has real enemies. They are constantly working to destroy YOU and your way of life
2. You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad. You don't get the option of "staying out of it." Eventually, these conflicts will reach domestic shores if we are passive

I choose to fight abroad, every time, without question. And yes, I am fully aware of all the crap that is a consequence of this approach; nation building, regime toppling, CIA, boots on the ground, cost of conflict, funding insurrectionists and then they become an enemy, MIC, etc. Do I want us to do unscrupulous, immoral, unjust things? Absolutely not but it's all necessary evil to keep the conflict as far away from the US as possible

PROactive vs REactive

I guess people don't realize that the freedom to speak out against foreign conflict is protected by a proactive strategy, not a reactive strategy. Saying "stay out of it" is just sawing off the branch you are sitting on. It is unrealistic and naive

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only question i will ask is.....if you feel this strongly are you willing to send your son/daughter die for this cause? Do you really believe that Iran is such a threat starting today that you are willing to sacrifice your kids for it?

if so....i can respect that. If not....why the frick are you asking others to send their kids to die for something you are not willing to sacrifice your own kid for?

it really boils down to that. Because they did not attack us, period. they have zero capability of attacking normal americans on american soil.

its that simple.

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Most of our losses from Iranian proxies and terrorism occurred years, decades ago

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the impacts have been pretty minimal

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So the terrorists are what? Busy starting a new drone racing league? They gave up trying to destroy the west?

I can't for the life of me understand what point you people are trying to make.

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I'm not seeing frequent terrorist activities threatening our way of life from Iran either

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This is why you can't be reasoned with. When you wake up, you'll see how naive you were

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Or he is lying

People have a tendency to just make up things and attribute them to people around here

If I took every accusation seriously I'd be a Nazi, Trans supporting, Jew hating, communist (which is funny because no one here even knows what communism means), globohomo

People here lie constantly because they can't hold a conversation when reality collides with their worldview

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In all of these discussions I'm careful (unless it's in some way relevant) to never mention the Jewish faith. My observations and criticisms are directed at the nation state of Israel and it's Government.

But reading through this thread though, the OP is getting kind of pissed off and calling the rest of us stupid, and shite like that. Which is fine I guess, but he really should just relax and take comfort in the fact that President Trump agrees with him. Marco Rubio agrees with him. A host of American politicians agree with him. Every publicly traded defense contractor in this country agrees with him, and Israel agrees with him.

He's got alot of heavy hitting experts in his corner.

frick it, I'm sold. If all those other people, entities and groups agree with the OP, why shouldn't I?

You've got me OP. This is one of those rare instances when the poli-board changes a mind.

Now it's time for this...

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Yes, don't believe your eyes

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Neither you nor I have "seen" anything regarding this war. its all taken by faith.

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Got woke up when his jew masters told him what he had to do

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Nope. Been saying the same thing for decades. Because I got educated

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running around in Jewish chains

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Also nope. Because I know this has nothing to do with Israel but that's because I'm not stupid